this post was submitted on 14 Aug 2024
459 points (98.5% liked)

politics

19089 readers
3790 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Trump ‘couldn’t run that damn McFlurry machine if it cost him anything!’ Walz quipped

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz on Tuesday hit out at Donald Trump’s anti-union record as he promised that he and Vice President Kamala Harris would take the pro-labor agenda that made his state one of the best places to work and bring it to the rest of the country.

Speaking to the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees union in Los Angeles, the Democratic vice presidential nominee — the first labor union member on a presidential ticket since Ronald Reagan ran as a Republican in the 1980 election — slammed Trump’s record while touting Harris’s background as a former fast food worker

“You know Vice President Harris grew up in a middle class family, picked up shifts at that McDonald’s as a student. I keep asking this to make a contrast here, can you simply picture Donald Trump working at a McDonald’s, trying to make a McFlurry or something?” he said.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You don't need to gatekeep legitimate criticisms of Trump. He was robbing taxpayers well before he fucked up his COVID response, and just because he did worse things doesn't mean we can't point out the other bad shit he did too.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Oh that is very true, I just think a US president playing golf is a nothing burger. And the fact this douchebag owns a country club/resort/golfcourse and thus chooses to play and stay there is more indicative of a broken political system owned by the elite than anything else. And the fact this is even possible in the US system makes it even worse.

Here in the Netherlands using a government vehicle to go anywhere not for a business appointment means the cost is paid by the person themselves. In the US the president gets a salary and has 0 cost of anything while president. That's a pretty sweet deal.. and the US elected someone that pigged out in his "all you can spend" deal.. but this was the deal..

And his base is apparently OK with it.

By any metric trump was a terrible president, as a European I cannot understand how this is happening. A little like the EU getting shafted by Orban... Just HOW?

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Okay, I see where you're coming from.

The issue here is one of context. Yes, golf is traditionally a leisure activity of US Presidents. There are a few military bases near Washington DC that have golf courses on them, which is where Presidents usually go. Because they're on secured installations, the additional security required (read: the cost, in taxpayer dollars) for a Presidential visit is minimal.

Donald Trump didn't do that. He would either fly to his golf course in New Jersey, or his course in Florida. Because neither of those locations were secure, it cost the Secret Service a lot more time and effort (read: taxpayers' dollars) to secure the area for a Presidential visit. Also Donald Trump forced the Secret Service agents to rent rooms and golf carts- in other words, the agency tasked with protecting the President of the US had to pay for rooms and carts for its agents, and since Trump didn't divest himself from his businesses that money went straight from the USSS to his pockets. He essentially was at one of his properties every weekend for his entire Presidency- over 360+ days were on a Trump property, which means that a full 25% of his term in office was spent on a golf course.

So not only was he absentee from the White House for a significant period of time, he was doing so in a way that forced taxpayers to give him money above and beyond his salary. Profiting off the Presidency is supposed to be illegal, but since we have a legal system that has proven it's willing to bend over backwards in its refusal to hold him accountable, nothing was done about it.

In contrast, Obama usually went golfing near the WH and did so at a lower average rate than Trump. Fox only complained about him because, well, they're racists.

[–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)