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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Reading Internet comments on this, the right has already made up their minds that she is basically going to roll out a red carpet for Hamas, and the left already thinks that she is going bomb children.

She’s on record saying that she supports Israel’s right to defend itself, AND that Israel is killing and starving innocents civilians. As far as I know, in the week that she’s been the candidate, she hasn’t stated what “support” looks like and how or if she plans to disincentivize their offensive campaign that’s killing and starving civilians / continuing the circle of violence.

[–] wagesj45@kbin.run 41 points 3 months ago (1 children)

supports Israel’s right to defend itself

Yeah, that's not wrong.

AND that Israel is killing and starving innocents civilians

Yeah, also not wrong. Because in this instance Israel isn't defending itself. They're not taking out imminent threats; at least not exclusively. They're using an attack to justify imperialism and genocide. We even have a very recent example of how that's usually a disaster for everyone involved.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It is utterly unsurprising that large swathes of the internet is rejecting what seems to be a reasonable stance that'd provide the best outcome for everyone.

In this case the leaders of both these nations are dumpster fires and there are extremist elements present in both... but most people just want to live and have guaranteed access to clean water and social services.

[–] Brokkr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Also, Russia has massive propaganda efforts in place to affect public opinion online. Deepening the divide everyone is definitely in their favor; especially while they would definitely like us to not pay attention to Ukraine.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The left has also made up their mind after 9 months of gaslighting by Biden pretending he was going to be tough on israel, and then sending them more bombs to drop on schools when they ran out.

"Trust me bro" fingerwagging isn't enough anymore. We need concrete promises and real action.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Those of who didn’t like Biden’s actions in Gaza, but were still voting for him, were doing so because we viewed other issues on the ballot as even worse.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Also because Trump wants to be even WORSE on Gaza. Really simple calculation.