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Lichtman thinks Dems would be slitting their own throats by dumping Biden (invidious.darkness.services)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by hedge@beehaw.org to c/politics@beehaw.org

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I honestly don't know what to think at this point; just putting this out there.

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[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

broken system that heavily favors super-delegates

This is years out of date nonsense.

The time for this was during primary elections for the Democratic nominee, not now. Doing it now undermines the rule of law

And this is incoherent. There's no "law" involved in any of this. If Biden leaves the race it will be from him withdrawing, which is a totally by the books option in Democratic internal rules.

[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

On July 23, 2016, ahead of the 2016 Democratic National Convention, the 2016 DNC Rules Committee voted overwhelmingly (158–6) to adopt a superdelegate reform package. The new rules were the result of a compromise between the Hillary Clinton and the Bernie Sanders presidential campaigns

Ultimately, the DNC decided to prevent superdelegates from voting on the first ballot, instead of reducing their numbers

People keep seeming to forget about the super delegate reform Bernie fought for. They are still there now, 15% of all the delegates (a lot of the super delegates being democratic elected officials like members of congress since that automatically gives the status). But they can't vote in the first ballot any longer. They could only vote in a contested election in subsequent ballots, after all the other pledged delegates are unbound as well.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate

Even before those reforms, they never really made a difference in any convention, except possibly 1984 when they helped push Mondale from a plurality to a majority by voting for him on the first ballot.

I'm not personally in favor of them at all, but it's not nearly as bad as it's made out to be sometimes. If we go to an open convention though, unless there's a majority choice on the first ballot, they may play a role on subsequent ballots.