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[–] fargeol@lemmy.world 119 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] Laser@feddit.org 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm facing a dilemma here.

On the one hand, I believe Ivanka and Elmo are both devious enough to take the message of someone they despise and use it for themselves.

On the other hand, both are probably too stupid to understand the message in the first place. The old malintent vs. incompetence problem.

To be fair, I also never interpreted the message of these movies in this way; but on the other hand, I was about 13 when the movie released here, and I can't remember referring to any of the movie's elements since then, less so to use them as allegories. While impressive in a technical way back then, they never had such a lasting impact on me.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Considering that taking the red pill causes you to awaken to the realities of the world around you, and you could describe that as being woke, I'd say they're idiots.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

If any political ideology other than, you know, being trans, gets to claim the red pill it's soulists, who argue consensus reality is fake and bad.

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago

I think people tend to forget what Morpheus mentioned to Neo about freeing minds past a certain age. So awakened and presented with reality, but not being able to let go of engrained notions and probably not very helpful in the fight against the machines.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Ivanka is not stupid at all, this is a dangerous thought process that because someone is attached to ineptitude they themselves most too be inept. She's manipulative and often plays the dumb pretty girl because people buy it and it is at times very very advantageous.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago