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This really does not sound healthy. The game is released, for a certain amount of money. If people don't like what they get for their money, they simply should not buy it.

But by now gamers have been so trained to expect to endless content treadmills and all their ilk like mtx and battle passes that publishers/developers get egged on if they don't work on their game 24/7 and forever.

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[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Don't take early access money if you don't plan to be giving frequent updates. It's the nature of the beast.

People don't expect constant updates from pokemon because when you buy it, it's "a complete game". They may drop patches and add content but it's not expected the way it is from a game supposedly in active development like an early access game is.

[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Nah screw that.. don't buy early access games if you don't think it's worth it in it's current state.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Both are true though.

If you want to release your game in Early Access, you should expect to update the game and community frequently.

If you want to buy a game (early access or not), take a look if it's what you want to play right now, never buy any game, software, service or device that is promising the functionality you want will be coming later. If it does come later, buy it then, never buy on promises.

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Naw screw that. Don't label it early access if you don't plan to update it from its current state at a rate that the majority of your fan base expects.

That said the dev in this article has provided 3 updates in 3 months. They're totally fine by the expectations of all but the most unreasonable people.

[–] IllIIllIllIIIIl@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Or just don't buy a game with expectations that don't match reality and then get mad at other people.

Typical gamer brain rot

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But my expectations match the norm! You are stupid.

[–] IllIIllIllIIIIl@programming.dev -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Again, typical gamer brain rot

Obviously not, otherwise this discussion wouldn't be happening. You get that right? This thread wouldn't exist and there would be no point to talk about this at all.

Use some brain cells

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

OR you are stupid. I'm just not gonna sugercoat it by pretending adding "gamer" to "brain rot" means anything but you exposing your bias.

If you wanna call me stupid, just do that. Don't tell on yourself.

A gamer is the target audience of the article and this community.

[–] IllIIllIllIIIIl@programming.dev -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

So much entitlement with you lol, yeah and the article is calling you out for being whiney children and demanding things from devs at an unnecessary pace.

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The article is attempting to move the established goal posts for expectations. Stop shilling for these guys. You don't need to carry their water. The devs know this, which is why they've kept pace. They're just bitching about having to.

It's so unreasonable yet we do it. Woe is us.

[–] IllIIllIllIIIIl@programming.dev -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit you're a fucking moron, dude.

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

The feeling is mutual.

[–] IllIIllIllIIIIl@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't buy an early access game if you expect a complete package.

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's not expecting a complete package at the time of purchase. It's expecting one in due time with your support.

What you are describing is a game outside of early access.

[–] IllIIllIllIIIIl@programming.dev -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why are those your expectations, then? Seems kind of illogical to look at a system with a history of not that, expect it, then be mad.

You can say it's not right for it to happen, but to be expecting it just makes no sense at all. Again, I'll reiterate, you can argue that the system is fucked and needs to change, but, again, expecting an outcome with evidence that it won't happen, then get mad, is asinine

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No need to make things up. My expectation is what we get most of the time. You're the weirdo acting like it's not. This article is just a developer trying to move the goal posts of expectations yet again.

Like how much of a cuck for these businesses do you want to be?

It's not illogical to expect a developer to follow the basic standards of the industry they opted into. It would be illogical to declare them the exception.

Small teams drop regular media and content updates all the time without people dying at their desks. The conversation of their working conditions is between them and their bosses (maybe the state), and not their customers.

[–] IllIIllIllIIIIl@programming.dev -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You accused me of making things up and called me a weirdo, honestly you're a waste of breath.

What did I make up, exactly? Are your feelings always this sensitive?

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You made up what my expectations were then argued against that instead of reality. Keep shilling though.

[–] IllIIllIllIIIIl@programming.dev -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You LITERALLY said your expectations, dork. I didn't make up shit, you fucking said it yoursel

I'm not shilling, but good try with that one

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I did write my expectations. So why was that your response? You called expecting the norm illogical. I take it back. You're just unrealistic and assume everyone else should be too.

[–] IllIIllIllIIIIl@programming.dev -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You just said I made up your expectations then that yeah you did write them out

So which is it? Did i make it up or did you write them?

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wrote them out and you made up something different. Fuck man. How many times do I gotta break it down? You not reading didn't make my words not exist. This is like... common stuff. This whole argument is making sense now...

[–] IllIIllIllIIIIl@programming.dev -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I didn't make up anything different at all, you fucking asswad. Liar

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I also believe you are a liar now. It's all in text.

[–] IllIIllIllIIIIl@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago

Exactly, any dipshit can see the chain of events that show you're just a troll.