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The author argues that Florida is struggling in many ways recently. Ron DeSantis' handling of the COVID pandemic led to many preventable deaths in Florida, contradicting early articles praising his response. Now DeSantis is known more for his anti-gay and anti-science stances rather than effective governance. His campaign for president seems doomed to fail due to his lack of charisma and poor performance as governor. The author expresses sympathy for Florida residents dealing with the fallout of climate change, disasters, and poor leadership.

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[–] VoxAdActa@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i don’t know why you out of hand dismiss this as a possibility.

Because there's no evidence.

"65% of all the eligible voters in Florida were prevented from voting due to direct governmental interference and extreme voter suppression" is a fantastic claim. One might even call it an extraordinary claim. One for which I would expect to see some fairly extraordinary evidence. I can't just wake up in the morning and decide to believe something because it fits with my preconceived biases, especially not something directly involving almost 14 million people.

Are you actually expecting me to believe that 14 million people tried to show up at the polls and were turned away, without any evidence whatsoever? That's a Q-level conspiracy.

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you actually expecting me to believe that 14 million people tried to show up at the polls and were turned away, without any evidence whatsoever? That’s a Q-level conspiracy.

from felony disenfranchisement alone, Florida legally disenfranchises 15% of its total black population and approximately one million (possibly more, we don't have exact numbers and that's by design) otherwise eligible voters statewide—an estimated 10% of the otherwise-eligible citizen population. turnout in 2022 was 7,796,916 voters.

[–] VoxAdActa@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

1 million voters is just under ~~half of one~~ five percent of registered voters. That's a far cry from 65%.

Edited to correct my stupid math.

Edit 2: Edited my original post in this thread to reflect the provided data.

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

1 million voters is just under half of five percent of registered voters. That’s a far cry from 65%.

the state of Florida: extrajudicially prosecutes voters; arbitrarily fines voter groups; disenfranchises at least a million people in contravention of an overwhelmingly-supported referendum to legally enfranchise them

you: this isn't autocracy because that's only 5% of the total population of Florida (even though the affected demographics are disproportionately pro-Democratic and that's the point of the disenfranchisement), there isn't systemic corruption (even though the state of Florida is explicitly attempting to override the will of the people), Floridians did this to themselves (even though they've done everything in their power to not be run by inhuman ghoul Ron DeSantis)

is this seriously what we're arguing? because if you're going to do this i'd rather you be honest with yourself and just say you don't care what happens to the millions of people in Florida who fought against and continue to fight against this despite people like you writing them off as basically subhuman.