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[–] Twinkletoes@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As a huge Sanders fan, he's too old as well now. AOC for sure, but sadly in this shithole country that's a pipe dream.

[–] groucho@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

AOC wants to be Speaker, not President.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I'm fine with her choosing whatever she wants to do (or not do), because she's already been given an incredibly difficult time just being a House Rep. But if she ran for President, I'd campaign for her non-stop from announcement to election day.

[–] groucho@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 months ago

Oh same, and we need more dems like her in general, but I'm not going to be too disappointed when she chases Pelosi's job instead.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It could've been Sanders back in '16, maybe '20, but he's too old now. Don't switch one senile old fuck out with another.

I'd be very pleased with AOC, but she isn't too popular with a lot of people.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago

Don't switch one senile old fuck out with another.

to be fair, Bernie has not lost a single step but, as a pragmatist, I think he would say his most effective position moving forward is in the senate.

[–] ulkesh@beehaw.org 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And look at that, AOC turns 35 in October (minimum age for presidency)! If only half of this country wouldn’t see her rise to such a stage as some affront to their white misogynistic identity, we could actually see real progress take shape.

But yeah, Biden should not have ran and should have let someone younger and more cognitively astute in-the-moment take the stage. He’s probably a good person and probably a good family patriarch, but he is past the point of needing to step down.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

AoC needs to be VP for like 4 terms before being prez. Hammer home some decency and yeeeears of success so the fat old white guys can't ignore her like they do with VP Harris. Also, AoC as a VP for almost a generation as the nation's conscience kinda makes me happy.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This defeatist, placatory attitude will ensure that we never make any progress.

No one has ever been VP for FOUR TERMS, but that's the hypothetical bar you set for her, because you assume that's what it would take? Leaving aside that it's an impossible ask anyways, being VP for 4 terms isn't going to satisfy the "old fat white guys" anyways.

Are misogynists gonna demand more of her? Yeah, of course. But don't go setting the bar higher on their behalf, before they even say anything!