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[–] Duranie 89 points 4 months ago (9 children)

Antibiotics aren't for viruses. Cold air doesn't make you sick. Tongues don't have "taste zones." Muscles don't have memory.

And because you threw up for one day, you didn't have "the 24hr flu." You ate something bad or someone didn't wash their hands. The flu is short for influenza, which is a respiratory virus, which typically does not make you throw up and shit. More likely it was the dodgy gas station sushi.

Let's keep going...

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 45 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Anyone who has taken FDA mandated food safety training can confirm that food borne illness is the cause of most “stomach bugs.”

Also, there’s poop on everything. Wash your hands.

[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

or don't. you're just going to get more poop on your hands.

(of course you should wash your hand before cooking or eating finger foods etc. but don't overthink it before you end up as germ fobic)

[–] mxcory@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

gas station sushi.

One day I WILL buy sushi from a gas station. I just want to be able to say that I have done it.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I like how everyone bitches about gas station sushi, but the hotdogs being kept bacterial-paradise-warm on rollers until the end of time are A-OK.

[–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hotdogs have so much salt that bacteria can't live on them. Science.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago

Bacteria have standards!

[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

just make sure not to black out and wake up in a sewer

[–] androogee@midwest.social 20 points 4 months ago

But this big rat wants to teach me karate

[–] fubbernuckin@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Why not, i wanna be surrounded by fish. Horny fish.

[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Stomach flu is a thing, different from influenza

It's just a stomach virus, not a flu.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago

Cold air doesn't make you sick

I hate this one. Doesn't matter how many times I've had to hurry to catch a bus to get to college over the past 3 quarters, my mom will always tell me how I'm gonna get sick from having wet hair because I don't have enough time to dry it after I shower. So far I have yet to have any negative consequences for those (in)actions.

[–] IlovePizza@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, cold air can contribute to making you sick. I got more misled by being told getting a cold had nothing to do with temperature because it is a virus. It is indeed a virus, but you're more likely to get infected if you get cold.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Isn't it more that cold weather makes people gather together in enclosed spaces.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It's a combination of different factors. Cold weather makes it harder for your airways to defend themselves. There are I believe some cold viruses that are viable for longer or are stronger in cold weather, but since the cold is many different viruses I am not sure how much difference it makes.

[–] HackerJoe@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

True. Influenza viruses don't like heat. You can potentially reduce the amount of active cells substantially by going to the sauna. 60°C is already sufficient to reduce it by 4 orders of magnitude.

https://www.mdpi.com/2036-7481/13/4/60

[–] Mercury@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

It's because your immune system is less efficient at lower temperatures. So being cold doesn't directly make you sick, but it can indirectly contribute to getting you sick.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Well your spine has memory tho kinda or is that also wrong?

[–] Duranie 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's the difference between gray matter and white matter. Gray matter readily communicates with it's crowding neighbors and can retain information, while white matter is myelinated so it can send messages over distances. Gray matter extends from our brains down our spinal cords.

Muscles are dumb meat who take their orders from the nervous system. They have no capacity for memory. But training can create reflexes at the spinal cord level which some refer to as "muscle memory," except it's not the muscle that should get the credit here.

[–] groet@infosec.pub 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I never thought muscle memory was "stored" in the muscles. The same way a memory of a smell is not stored in the nose. I was quite confused to see this as a common misconception but it makes sense from the name

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah heard about that misconception here for the first time.

[–] FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

Same, do some people think it literally means the muscles have memory rather than you have the memory of what to do with your muscles?

[–] Duranie 1 points 4 months ago

As a massage therapist, unfortunately not only are there massage therapists who have been poorly educated and taught that this is true, but I've had countless clients repeat it back to me over the years enough times that I feel the need to attempt to reeducate if I think the person will be receptive to the discussion.

From my experience many people "learn" this because someone well meaning wanted to dumb things down a bit too much and the information wasn't conveyed very clearly, or there's practitioners of a variety of flavors that explain how "traumatic experiences are stored in the body's tissues" and that's why they have to (insert their brand of therapy.) Another group is surrounding athletes and trainers, who use the term as blurry language and people take them literally as they are then as experts.

It doesn't sound like that big of a deal until you get a client who thinks that if you hurt them enough with an aggressive massage that it'll "fix" a past trauma. I wish I were joking.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Your spine has neurons, so kinda.

[–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Wait the flu doesn't typically cause nausea?!

...that was food poisoning I got as a kid, wasn't it.

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If flu can't case nausea someone needs to tell our health service https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/flu/

[–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don't see nausea mentioned anywhere on that page you linked.

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 3 points 4 months ago

"feeling sick and being sick" That's the more usual term for it in England.

[–] Hamartia@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

•feeling sick and being sick

[–] guiguinofake@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This cat is sick, that doesn't mean it has the flu

[–] Hamartia@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

The NHS adjudges that cat as having flew.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is UK English. It can just mean feeling unwell here, though it can also refer to throwing up. It's quite a vague term.

[–] Hamartia@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

You think the NHS website is going to list a symptom of some illness as feeling unwell?

I'm from the UK too. I'm fairly certain that they mean nausea and throwing up.

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Dude idk this is the one thing that makes me scratch my head.

Kids seem to throw up often when they are sick. When the adults catch it from their kids, they very rarely have any GI issues but especially not nausea/vomiting. This is absolutely anecdotal evidence, but I anticipate a lot of parents and childcare workers will find rings true enough.

Or maybe it's my really shitty family genetics and we are all more likely to puke lol

[–] kofe@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Pretty sure there are strains that can cause nausea. I had one back around 2011 or so that nearly killed me after a week of puking non-stop. I reached a point of just sipping broth, not sleeping for like 36 hours towards the tail end. It's what made me realize the times I thought I'd had it before were probably just food poisoning

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 4 points 4 months ago

Kids seem to throw up often when they are sick.

The explanation I heard was that kids bodies are still learning how to pilot and maintain their meat ships so their stomachs will sometimes get upset and purge when they don't need to/shouldn't

Source: foggy memory of I think it was a SciShow video like 5-10 years ago?

[–] Duranie 3 points 4 months ago

This is why I said "typically does not" instead of never. Some people's immune systems will go ape shit and get every possible symptom under the sun, and children's immune systems/reactions can be more stressed till they build some strength and have more exposures through life so their bodies learn how to handle them.

But if someone has a bad day that they're throwing up/have diarrhea (no stuffy nose, congestion, or other respiratory symptoms) then chances are they consumed something their body is trying to reject.

[–] Juvyn00b@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Tongue taste zones I clearly remember learning about in third grade or so. Also the food pyramid. Saw a video on that recently - what a joke.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 4 months ago

There are all such things as antivirals though.