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[–] sylveon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 130 points 4 months ago (11 children)

"Preparation purist" is wrong. You don't boil the tea, you steep it in hot water. For some teas, like black tea, you usually boil the water before pouring it over the tea, but other types of tea use water that isn't as hot (e.g. around 70-80°C for green tea).

Also, if you actually want to be an ingredient purist, tea must be made from the leaves of Camellia sinensis (or a closely related species).

[–] Skalbagge@lemm.ee 88 points 4 months ago (3 children)

You're arguing with a meme that put clogged gutter as pure tea ingredient

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 55 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Correct. That would be tea as long as it's camellia sinensis.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] fossphi@lemm.ee 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

No, this is Patrick.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Im also correct

[–] match@pawb.social 5 points 4 months ago

In China it's called 地沟茶

[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

i mean, if you consider tea to be leaves soaked in water until the flavor comes out, then clogged up gutter water is tea.

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What's the proper steeping time for decaying oak leaves "until the flavor comes out"?

[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'd say you should steep them for up to a year, that way you get all the taste.

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Excellent, I'll be ready to sell my current batch this coming October.

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 2 points 4 months ago

In some countries where tee grows naturally you can found riviers and pond where the water carried tea leaves fell from the tree, which give naturally to the water some aroma.

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[–] C126@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You hit the issue, theyre confusing tea, a specific plant, with an infusion. Herbal tea is more correctly called an herbal infusion. Tea is a type of herbal infusion.

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbal_tea :

... most dictionaries record that the word tea is also used to refer to other plants beside the tea plant and to beverages made from these other plants. In any case, the term herbal tea is very well established and much more common than tisane.

Furthermore, in the Etymology of tea, the most ancient term for tea was 荼 (pronounced tu) which originally referred to various plants such as sow thistle, chicory, or smartweed, and was later used to exclusively refer to Camellia sinensis (true "tea")

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 1 points 4 months ago

I think the confusion come from the fact that in many languages and cultures the name for tea and plant infusion is the same. Tea is name plant infusion because it is among the go to infusion if no plant is mention. But then in these language the name for "herbal infusion" or "herbal tea" does not contain the name of the specific plant "tee". This or the languages got it wrong. Yes, I go that far.

[–] match@pawb.social 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm steeping in sweat and I drank a lot of camellia sinensis, am I tea?

[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 4 months ago

Unfortunately for you, yes. Please report to the nearest Tetley factory for processing.

[–] MxRemy@lemmy.one 11 points 4 months ago

I came to say the same thing about Camellia sinensis, thinking "am I about to be more of a tea purist than is even encapsulated in this chart?" So I'm glad somebody else got there first lol

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I've been to a workshop about green tea recently and you can prepare it with any water temperature. You can make it with cold water, it just takes longer. You can even place ice cubes into the can, put tea leaves on top and let them melt

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ice brewed tea is a thing in the US. Take a pitcher with water and ice, throw it in the fridge overnight with some tea bags

[–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Or without the tea bags, if you want to brew American beer.

[–] Censored@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Yes, sun tea is tea. I'd really like to see this meme done by someone who actually knows something about tea (and doesn't think it involves boiling tea leaves)

[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] sylveon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 months ago

This standard is not meant to define the proper method for brewing tea intended for general consumption, but rather to document a tea brewing procedure where meaningful sensory comparisons can be made.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Misread that as Nobel prize and ...lol wtf

[–] Censored@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3103

Oh shit. My earl grey (brewed in a ceramic (earthenware) mug) is not tea because it brewed in a mug, not a tea pot.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

100% agreed.

Though I'm firmly in the "coffee is tea" camp

[–] sylveon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 months ago

As long as you're not claiming to be a purist I'll allow it.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 months ago (4 children)
[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Coffee with vanilla and soy milk is a three bean soup.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

No that's spoiled bean juice

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

As a bean purist, I have to disagree. (My puristic view: a bean can only come from a legume.) It's a one bean soup.

[–] Censored@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago
[–] Censored@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I think you're right!

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[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Coffee beans aren't true beans. They are the pit seeds of the coffee cherry fruit, similar to other stone fruit such as cherries, peaches, plums, olives, and dates.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Okay, coffee is hot seed then

[–] Censored@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

It's hot pit water.

[–] chocoladisco@feddit.de 2 points 4 months ago

As is miso soup

[–] Censored@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

No, the fruit must be squeezed for juice. Soy milk is bean juice, but coffee is not.

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[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 4 months ago (7 children)

It depends. It's perfectly acceptable to boil the tea for many Indian preparations (usually called cha or chai).

[–] sylveon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago

True, I forgot about that!

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[–] Censored@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Thank you. I am horrified that I had to scroll past a discussion of "is pho tea"? to get here. The so-called purist has never even made a proper cup of tea! So obviously pho is NEVER tea, since stock is extensively boiled.

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 2 points 4 months ago

It depends of the kind of tee your using. Once I bought the wrong type of turkish tea and next thing I now I'm boiling my tea during month so I don't drink a slighty darker version of hot water.