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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by ekZepp@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
 
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[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How about.

Both sides are bad. Republicans are worse.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nope, it's still used as a way to depress Democrat votes. "Both sides are bad. Republicans are worse." is used as an opener to such arguments as:

  • vote 3rd party

  • reject the system (ie don't vote)

  • accelerationism

  • do this pie-in-the-sky impossible thing first (communist revolution, etc)

It's a platform by which people are herded into arguments designed solely to depress Democrat votes, aimed squarely at Democrat voters.

Just stick with "Republicans are bad".

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The "No criticism of the Democrats" strategy may help win the next election, but long term it will only increase dissatisfaction.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Criticism of Democrats is perfectly reasonable in safe Dem districts. Like Diane Feinstein. But at this point, literally any Democrat is better than literally any Republican, so if Dem control is in doubt, stick with blue no matter who.

Besides, we have a whole primary specifically to criticize Dem candidates. That's when we should be bringing this shit up.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. I just wish the democratic candidates were better.

we have a whole primary specifically to criticize Dem candidates.

2016 showed how ineffective primaries are. The 2020 modifications are lipstick on a pig.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's this exhaustingly dumb conspiracy theory that Bernie somehow had very broad popular support despite all polls saying otherwise. Bernie didn't have the numbers.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bernie didn't have the numbers because he didn't have the DNC support, the media support or the pre-assigned superdelegate support.

However, he did have the numbers to beat Trump which is what really counts.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He had the Republican numbers rofl

Though blacks, Hispanics, women and moderate voters consistently support either Democratic candidate when faced with Trump as the Republican alternative, there are two significant groups that Sanders wins over by much larger margins than Clinton and help him beat Trump by double digits: Republicans under 30 and Independents who do not lean toward either party.

I highly doubt these Republicans (and Republicans but too ashamed to admit it) would have done anything other than fall in line like they always have during election season.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I think you underestimate how many Republicans dislike Trump.