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[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 219 points 5 months ago (3 children)

They feel he tilted the trial? He handled Trump with kid gloves the whole trial while he was throwing constant diaper filled tantrums. If anything he went way too easy on the orange baboon.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 155 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Fascists always say they were treated unfairly...

The problem with that is, moderates then treat them with kids gloves, thinking that will stop them from saying it.

It never does.

To deal with fascists you throw the book at them, max legal punishment for every crime.

Because even if you just give them a slap on the wrist, their ideology requires them to say they were treated unfairly and are being persecuted.

It's like how they'll call the most conservative Dem in office a communist. So there's no point in running a conservative Dem, they'll fight them as hard as the most progressive.

There's no rational reason to compromise before the fight starts.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 52 points 5 months ago (1 children)

fascists sit in positions of power while pretending they are a horribly persecuted and mistreated minority

[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

Next up: Fox News tells us how awful the Mainstream Media is!

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Many judges grant the defense way more leeway than the prosecution. One reason is actually pretty brutal- it keeps them from having something to appeal.

Trump obviously wants to drag this out as long as possible, and keep re-rolling the dice until he wins. Preventing that is a worthy goal.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

While there is some credence for that, it's not like it only applies to fascists.

Yet they always get preferential treatment at trial.

Regardless of if that's like Trump's case where he appointed the judge, or this one where the other party appointed the judge.

In both situations, the judges are more lenient with fascists than literally any other demographic.

trump isnt the only example, look at all the 1/6 trials.

Our justice system has a bias towards fascists, and regardless of the reasoning of the person showing the bias, they all believe it's justified for one reason or another.

And it's always the wrong strategy when dealing with fascists.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

This is particularly true for politicalized trials, because appeals courts are almost always more conservative than the lower courts. As you appeal higher, the courts tend to be more and more conservative, so a conservative’s chances of winning increase. So if you want to prevent a conservative from winning on appeal, the best way is to never give them anything to appeal in the first place.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it’s the card says moops. They aren’t arguing what they think is true, they’re arguing what they think will get them what they want if they can convince people is true

[–] Fox@pawb.social 1 points 5 months ago

Give it a shot, maybe he'll have enough time before November to publish a book

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He's not going to give Trump a prison term. He said as much during Trump's tenth contempt citation. This is Senators grandstanding so that they can go home and tell their constituents "I fought for your President and I won!" when the outcome was a foregone conclusion. Its all kabuki.

[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

They aren't even trying him until after the election

If only someone could have seen it coming that no matter how soft the judges would be, half the country would allege wrongdoing. Judge may as well have just given him the letter of the law treatment. Would probably have been better for the country too to see Donny in contempt of court, that way the eager ones burn themselves out soon instead of letting every racist in the country simmer in a pressure cooker awaiting a verdict.