Lol thats great, i came under a "biden bad"-post just a few hours ago to the same conclusion. the best friend of a left-authoritarian isn't anyone on the left wing, its an right-authoritarian.

i'm a socialist with anarchism as an ideal in some aspects, and for quite a while i couldn't understand why anyone on the left side of the spectrum would actively lobby against biden in the upcoming election until i realized that.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Biden literally supports genocide, so it is reasonable for people to not want to support him even if it comes at a cost to themselves. If you're unable to understand that, even if you disagree, I very much doubt you are aligned with the kind of goals you purport.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You clearly don’t understand that America as an institution has supported genocide your entire life and longer, it’s just more in your face right now than it’s ever been, Biden may support genocide but so did Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, Ike, Truman, FDR, Hoover, and on back. This isn’t new shit and yes we desperately need better, but the genocide of the people you are arguing for will continue either way, but it will be faster with Trump. If you feel this strongly about stoping the US support of genocide regardless of who is president, I suggest you look into direct action, if you don’t have the backbone for that shut the fuck up.

Your vote isn’t a declaration of loyalty, love, support, or condoning. It never has been in this country, what it is is a small expression of which of the two directions presented to you is preferable. In this iteration we are presented with the maintenance of the status quo, which is fucking so stupid and I in every other circumstance would fight tooth and nail against it, but the other option is authoritarian christofascism which will culminate in at the very minimum of a constitutional crisis when blue states refuse to enforce the Gilead bullshit while thousands are murdered in red states. You want to stop genocide in Gaza? Me too, it’s gonna be hard to do that when there’s a cleansing happening in the US.

It’s a fucked up system, I hate it too, but again the only other option than these two ancient assholes is direct action and that has a lot of other consequences even if they are worth it in the long run

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

So I'm going to just tell you this; what you're doing above is not convincing anyone.

Given that factual reality, you then have to ask yourself, as someone who probably likes to believe that you're pragmatic and worldly; if your strategy for convincing millions of voters to support Democrats inspite of their increasingly fascist, right-wing tendencies is not working, what are your other practical options for actually helping Biden win.

And remember, this might involve changing your politics, or getting off the fence and actually doing something etc.

In any case, it's a rhetorical question, since I'll be blocking you. Think about it though, think about 2016 and how badly your political strategy failed this country then. Consider changing.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Lol

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Leftists literally threatening the country with a fascist takeover if Dems don't bow to their impossible demands.

We're not trying to win your vote. We're trying to stop you from infecting more undecideds. You people are rotten and need to be cut out of the process before you kill us all.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

What? Biden is the one playing chicken with our democracy, all he has to do is not give the middle finger to people who want him to stop funding a genocide. It's not like anyone is even expecting him to fight for healthcare or climate change or anything, literally just the very bare minimum of not sending money and arms to kill children and people would stomach voting for him. But no, you won't even compromise on that.

You honestly sound like you don't actually believe in the democratic process at all "Vote how I want you to or you don't deserve a vote."

No wonder you guys and the Republicans go together like hand and glove.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Gaslight <---- you are here

Obstruct

Project

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You people are rotten and need to be cut out of the process before you kill us all