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this post was submitted on 06 May 2024
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I don't think this event is in any way comparably to what happened in Tulsa.
I'm sorry, is the crux of your argument to devalue based on the quality of atrocity? ๐คข
What the police did to the MOVE compound was wrong, but what the MOVE terrorists were doing wasn't right either.
No one but you is even arguing that, and you're dangerously close to some shit heel whataboutism. Mind your step.
How is this whataboutism? What happened to them is a direct (disproportionate) result of their actions. That's not what whataboutism means.
Here is a hard concept for some people: Don't: start a cult, collect illegal firearms, create a compound with the intention of drawn out conflict, start shielding people from lawful arrests over acts of terrorism, open fire on an actual legion of police officers and firefighters, continue shooting at them even after the roof is covered in flames and your fellow cultmembers are holding children above the water of the flooding basement. Maybe at some point attempt a surrender, maybe around the time they evacuated the entire area and rolled up with a fucking anti-tank machinegun?
You'd defend Waco too, no doubt. ๐คท๐ผโโ๏ธ
Yeah, what of it? In Waco they thought the compound might be stockpiling illegal weapons, which turned out to be true when 4 ATF were gunned down. Then the FBI tried to negotiate for 51 days. That's way better response than what happened in Philly.
And you would rather the people in charge of Waco were in charge of the police?
Yes there were huge problems with the police response, pooly trained and gung-ho who clearly made it worse but also it was a difficult situation and it's hard to see it resolved by anyone without issue.