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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You think Biden is making the nation worse? Seriously? Have you paid attention at all?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You're remarkably bad at reading.

Capitalism is in decline. Continuing Capitalism continues this decline. Slight bumps upward on a downward trend line does not reverse the dowmward trend. Make sense when put that way for you?

Would it kill you to actually engage with leftist ideas, rather than run away the second you don't have an actual response, by the way?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Biden is slow, negative change

Verbatim. So Biden is not bad for the nation? It's an upward trend? And this is...bad?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Reading is hard for you. Biden has occasional upward ticks on an overall downward trend, he isn't an upward trend. If the ship is sinking and you don't fix the holes, there isn't an upward trend.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I read words, not minds.

Is Biden making this country better, or worse?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The country is getting worse, and he is not reversing that trend. By maintaining Capitalism, he is participating in making it worse. Occasionally he comes out with a nice act or law, but within the broader context of the direction the country is going, it matters little.

I've said the same thing 3 times now, you're not getting another.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Okay. So it's impossible for Biden to make anything better unless he undoes capitalism? Any good things he does are overshadowed by capitalism?

Isn't that a bit dogmatic? You're mistaking the means (socialism) for the ends (better society, happier people).

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He can alleviate some of its pains, but he cannot make things better overall without moving towards Worker Ownership.

I am not mistaking the means for the ends, the ends are achieved via means, and if Capitalism is currently continuing to decline then the ends cannot be achieved without moving towards Socialism.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

and if Capitalism is currently continuing to decline

You're ignoring the "if" though. We have clear examples of how capitalism can succeed in the Scandinavian countries (I would call them socialist, but you would say they're not, we've had this discussion). If Capitalism in the US moves in that direction, would you be willing to abandon socialism because we have a better path to societal happiness?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Social Democracies still depend on Imperialism to subidize their safety nets, still see decay (albeit at a lower rate), and still have the inherent exploitation of Capitalism. If you could fix Capitalism, I would be the first in line, haha.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can you elaborate on all those points?

What empire does Scandinavia have?

What signs of "decay" do you see?

What do you mean by exploitation?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Scandinavian countries export industrial and financial Capital to the Global South, to Super-Exploit internationally for domestic Super-Profits.

Scandinavian countries have seen decreasing social safety nets and rising inequality.

Capitalism inherently contains the exploitation of the Worker by the Owner, where the Owner pays the Worker less than the value the Worker creates, and profits from that difference.