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[–] hark@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Are you saying being slowly burned to death by a candle is better than a quick death? Your analogy is flawed on multiple levels.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Literally yeah. If you have any sort of control over it. We do. I'd take slow over quick any day unless I was suicidal. So there's a rather large hole in your ideology right there.

[–] hark@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's assuming it's just a candle. Again, the analogy is flawed on multiple levels. Downplaying the harm that democrats do when they still primarily cater to the rich is disingenuous.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No one is down playing that. You're simply denying that they're the best option we currently have afforded to us.

And the fact that we have an argument being made. Of which you would rather die to a candle or lava. Perfectly encapsulates the inanity of the whole argument. It's like saying which would you rather fight a kitten or a tiger. And then claiming you'd rather fight the tiger because it would kill you faster. And I'm like dude you can kill the kitten really easy. It's self-defeating. Or at least you're trying to get people to defeat themselves with such a weak argument.

We're not going to sabotage ourselves to enable the status quo. We're going to come for their seats. It may take years. But better to work with what we have to achieve the best we can do. Then to lay down and die because we can't have the perfect thing.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

The "best option" is not good enough and will not lead to the outcome you think it will. That's why downplaying it as just a candle is ridiculous. It's like when people say "if you put in the hard work then you will be rewarded". That's up to the whims of the system. Of course we should keep voting for democrats every time, but we should be realistic on how far that approach will actually take us.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Erm ackshually your obvious hyperbole was hyperbolic

Also no. A candle can simply be put out if it's burning you.

[–] hark@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How can we "put out" the harm that democrats cause when they cater to their rich donors? Come up with a better analogy. Handwaving it as hyperbole doesn't make it any less of a terrible analogy.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's not my fault you misunderstood a pretty simple analogy, but fine, I'll do it without the analogy. There are two choices. One is bad. One is worse. Neither are good, but they are not the same.

[–] hark@lemmy.world -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Your stupid analogy is very easy to understand, it's just wrong in terms of scale.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Hyperbanalogy

It still holds for a campfire vs a house fire, or a small house fire vs a large house fire, or whatever scale you think things are. I'm curious how close you think the two paeties are though, because I don't want to get sucked into a #bothsides discussion.