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I often use a commercial VPN service, which I suspect is not rare among Lemmy users. Most of the time, I'm able to post to lemmy.world, but on occasion I am not. The default web UI provides zero feedback, just a spinning submit button forever, but if I look in the browser dev tools, I can see it's being blocked.

I understand that some limitations are necessary to prevent spam and other abuse, however this is a very blunt instrument. The fact that I have a 10 month old account with consistent activity should outweigh any IP address reputation issues.

Perhaps the VPN limitations could be narrowed in scope to cover only account creation and posts from young accounts.

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[โ€“] best_username_ever@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Reddit has been blocking VPN users (even on old reddit) for the past few months.

[โ€“] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[โ€“] elbarto777@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Define better.

[โ€“] extant@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

When people are blocked for using a VPN it's usually because that IP was used in an attack at some point and added to a blacklist and since no one really owns it its never been contested, or its been used in multiple attacks and considered permanently added. Since a VPN provider's entire purpose is to hide what you're doing it's difficult for a provider to keep its users from abusing that IP.

So while it's possible to get a list of IP's that are owned by VPN providers and proactively block them it's generally only intended to block IP's known to be abusive.

Lemmy instances are just blocking IP's used in abuse, Reddit is actively trying to prevent robotic scrapers to keep their data more valuable to sell to AI companies so they are only interested in blocking VPN's they suspect are trying to scrape data and not a logged in user who happens to be using a VPN because if they know the user and are using a VPN and start scraping they can just ban the user.

Tl;Dr its about intent; Lemmy is preventing abuse vs. Reddit is protecting the value of its data for sales.

[โ€“] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's still true though. ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ