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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

He’s obviously racist AF, but I doubt this is a dog whistle. Guy is too fucking stupid and impulsive to attribute some kind of intent to his word vomit.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

He's stupid in a lot of ways, but he's popular as a speaker for a reason, and he has done a lot of dog whistling in his life. This is just the most blatant. I do think it is intentional.

[–] joe@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

He's popular as a speaker because he "tells it like it is", which roughly translates to "he says the quiet racist parts out loud". I agree that this probably isn't a dog whistle. Or, it probably wasn't. It definitely is now, and I fully anticipate seeing someone wearing a shirt that colorfully uses the word "rigger".

[–] Polydextrous@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

This is where I’m at. He makes up stupid fucking words all the time. But those that follow him will absolutely run with it to “own the libs.” I’m not even sure they would’ve picked up on it if it were a dog whistle. Maybe in the context of the rest of the trial it reads that way, but I haven’t been following the shit coming out of his mouth. But strictly because there’s been a big deal made of it, it’s now ripe for those dimwits utilizing it “as a joke,” and then it’ll just turn into another in a long list of things that IS a dog whistle with some modicum of deniability

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

"Telling it like it is" is basically= your racist uncles tirades and memes on Facebook.

I knew that asshole was gonna win when he started speaking like a Sentient Facebook Feed.

[–] BitOneZero@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

he’s popular as a speaker for a reason

I think he has a natural talent to listen to what gets a rise out of people, what gets a reaction, and then copy that in his own way. What he says, once transcribed to written form, is often not very intelligent. It's his mannerism and even his unique makeup and hair - that people listen to far more than his actual meaning. I find people who think Trump is a great person often have serious difficulty interpreting and understanding hard sciences like chemistry and physics... and are influenced by advertising techniques in particular ways.

[–] Elderos@lemmings.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You overestimate them. Simple-minded folks have serious difficulty reasonning about any concept that require you to either :

  1. Think of an abstract concept.

  2. Hold and evaluate a thought they don't agree with

  3. Any sort of application of logic and critical thinking requiring you to evaluate more than 1 or 2 elements in serie.

Their mind reset after making 1 "logical" deduction. Leaving them unable to evaluate both premises and arguments, or abstract concepts, or hold contradicting thoughts for evaluation, or any sort of concrete mental modeling of anything but the simplest cause to effect situations.

In that sense, the dumbest amongst us are not just incapable to do sciences, they can barely comprehend the very simple things surrounding them. They survive by gut-feeling, learned patterns, groupthink, and are driven by emotions (since it is all they have).

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think he lacks the mental faculties to do something like this. He’s a simpleton.

[–] Throbbing_Banjo@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Pretty sure a 3rd grader could figure out that "riggers" sounds a whole lot like a really naughty word for black people, which is about where he's at mentally.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

It's exactly what a 3rd grader would do...

Say a word that sounds real close to a word they can't say. Then when called out say that it's not the same word and no one can be mad they said it.

So yeah, probably intentional

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Regardless of whether he intended the visual/spelling similarity, I guarantee that his image of election riggers is exactly as racially coded as his image of "urban" Americans.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, but you’re attributing forethought to trump’s choice of words. That is not his forte.

[–] neoman4426@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You aren't far off in your assessment of Trump's mental maturity. He by his own admission has the temperament of a first grader

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

He’s definitely deficient as a human but never mistake the fool act for actually being a fool. More than anyone else in contemporary American society, Trump truly understands how to play to the lowest common denominator of his base

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I just can’t believe this selfish lying fuckwit would think that everyone would be on his side.

[–] Unaware7013@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Must just be a big coincidence his supporters started posting this kinda shit afterwards. 'Dindo Riggers' could mean anything!

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stop giving him the benefit of the doubt.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Christ. You people don’t get it. I am saying he’s too fucking stupid to do this. Not that he wouldn’t do it it if he were capable.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

He is fully capable of using dogwhistles that let people like you dismiss them as unintentional.

[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 year ago

No, YOU don't get it. Stupid and evil aren't mutually exclusive and whether you realize you're doing it or not you're providing cover for fascists.

[–] mrpants@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Doesn't take too high of an IQ to come up with this dog whistle.

[–] jtk@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

His word vomit is pulled from a very small bin of stuff that's "worked" in the past. Now that he knows it works as a dog whistle, we'll be hearing the word daily for the next 2 years, at least.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

100%. It's just that I don't htink he has the mental capacity to put this together in the first place. He stumbled upon this because he loves to say shit is "rigged". Then a bunch of rabid degenerates turned it into something else, and it's now a thing.