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[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (4 children)

At some point RB is going to have to answer the basics question. Is it Max or Horner winning the races...

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

But Max will also have to answer the question: Will he seriously leave for a team with a worse car?

[–] wes@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It seems to be going 2 possible ways in my opinion:

1: Verstappen goes to Merc with Marko & Newey.

2: Verstappen quits and goes on with sim racing.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

with Marko & Newey

Why would a 80 years old and a 65 years man look for a new job?

[–] krimson@feddit.nl 5 points 8 months ago

Maybe because they like what they do and want to continue doing so for as long as possible.

[–] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 3 points 8 months ago

Marko is not going to Merc, they really don't need him. Newey has it so cushy at Red Bull he's not going anywhere. Max would only leave at the moment if something terribly bad happend he didn't want to be associated with, and so far this isn't it.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh I see him flowing Newey in a heartbeat. Let's face the RB car is Newey

[–] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Let's face the RB car is Newey

That seems incredibly insulting to the other supremely talented engineers at red bull. One man alone cant develop a car. What he can is guide a team if talented designers. See how merc are still pretty much where they were last year in competitiveness even though James Allison was added back to the technical department.

Adrian newey is the difference maker, not the sole reason for success.

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Your last sentence is essentially no different to OP.

The Red Bull car is Newey because he makes the difference.

It's a team sport but there's no need to preface every statement with the credits at the end of the movie.

We know it's the director's film.

We know it's Newey's car.

We can say either of those statements without diminishing the work of others.

Unless you want to tell me I need to know the names of the 3rd AD and 2nd Dolly grip for each film in the best directors category, you shouldn't be trying to manufacture offence when someone says the "Global Chief Technical Officer" is responsible for the car.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Honestly it is a valid question. With his time splits it seems likely he could win with Mercedes or Ferrari, but that is just a guess.

I bet though if it truly gets down to a choice between the two, the powers that be will Choose Max.

[–] guylacaptivite@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yep, Max is fast enough to be a championship contender in either of the Top 4 teams right now, maybe top 5 considering what Alonso is doing in that Aston.

I also agree that RedBull would be stupid to not choose him over Horner. He absolutely destroyed 4 teammates with this team so far. You know, people that drive the same car, in the same team headed by the same people. The car sure is fast but this combination is all conquering and whatever you say Horner's maybe the fourth person responsible for that right now, and that's conservative.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Question is: where do neweys loyalties lie?

[–] Jozav@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Yes, that is the question for RB Racing. The basic question for RedBull is: do they want their brand linked to this racing team, or these team members?

[–] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 1 points 8 months ago

The answer is it's Horner. He's the man at the top enabling the entire organization build that rocket ship race car. There's half a dozen other drivers, at least, out there who could beat Perez and bring the championships home with that car.