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[–] Tetra@kbin.social 114 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Refering to women as "females" is always a massive red flag for me, it really gets under my skin.

[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know, when did "woman" become so problematic?

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Woman is not problematic in my experience, and there's a cute bit about that in Clueless:

Street slang is an increasingly valid form of expression. Most of the feminine pronouns do have mocking but not necessarily misogynistic undertone —Murray

Part of the problem is that our society is trying more than ever to include trans folk (and yes the pushback is extreme, to the point of being genocidal) and this means recognizing that not all women fit into neat categories that we might expect of a stereotypical heathy specimen. It's less about some women being AMAB hence some women don't have periods. Plenty of women didnt have periods (or had atypical periods) long before we included trans women, but then we were able to pretend otherwise when making generalizations.

Most of the time, when we talk about women, there still is no need to exclude trans women and generalities that don't apply while including trans women probably fail when we don't include trans women.

[–] Stinkywinks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Gals and ladies are my go-to

[–] Poob@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

If someone uses female as a noun instead of an adjective, there's an 80% chance they're a serial killer, and a 100% chance they're an incel.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Socially, female seems to be a distancing term, if someone feels it's not their position to discuss women. To me female is biological discriptor used when discussing non-humans (e.g. a female antelope) and Ive gotten in the habit of talking about a woman firefighter or a woman conductor to avoid female, I think because it is largely associated now with the alt-right between incels and alpha-males.

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 year ago

To me female is biological discriptor used when discussing non-humans (e.g. a female antelope)

Also, it's an adjective (e.g. a female antelope), not a noun (ex. look at these females)

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Unless it's said by Martin in Friday Night Dinner then for some reason it's hilarious

[–] Getallen@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

"It usually gets under my skin."

CRAWWWLINGGG IN MY SKINNNNNNN

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately, It's become necessary sometimes when discussing sex vs. gender. Since woman is now a catch-all for anyone who wants to be defined as such, if you need to differentiate biological women from non-biological women, female is the only single-word usage available.

[–] Tetra@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or you could just say "cis woman"

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Wouldn't it need to be "cis women and trans men" to capture all biological females?

[–] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Or AFAB which is what most people use.

Too much room for confusion with ACAB.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] vector_zero@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Or we could say female when describing females. Seems like a pragmatic approach.