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A Japanese video game walkthrough listing sleeping pills as one of their recommended methods to get high scores in Pokémon Sleep has gone viral on Japanese Twitter recently. The mention of sleeping aid has since been deleted from the site.

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[–] Lockely@pawb.social 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I still cannot believe there is a game for kids that recommends they set up a fire hazard in their beds.

[–] atocci@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm really not a fan of this game because of having to leave your phone on all night long with it plugged in. For multiple reasons, but the fire hazard is definitely one of them. Why couldn't it sync up with other passive sleep trackers, like smart watches?

[–] blake@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’d be interested in using it if the data could just be pulled from Apple Health. I don’t sleep with my phone and I’m not buying a $55 toy that does what my watch already accomplishes.

[–] atocci@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly, I have a Galaxy watch myself and it does a fine job of tracking my sleep despite how old it is. They made Pokemon Go able to sync walking data with the system health app so they game could reward you even without it open. I don't know why they missed that for Pokemon Sleep, especially with all the delays

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, you don't leave your phone on charge over night anyway?

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

leave your phone on all night long

The screen is on, assumed.

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, this app doesn't work with the screen off?

[–] atocci@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nope, averyminya is right. It needs to be on to track your sleep for some reason. I assume it's an OS limitation for privacy reasons.

[–] reverendsteveii@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

not really, no. this seems like an early dev/bad documentation issue more than an inherent limitation. I ran into this when I was trying to build my own GPS tracker for running: the OS will force your app out of memory if you run it as a normal app, you have to register the app as a service in order for the OS to leave it running in memory when you're not actively using it. Even then, some OSes will also make you specifically give the app permission to remain running when the phone is locked or another app is on-screen. tldr - what they want to do is doable in a safe way, they just haven't done it.

[–] atocci@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Very on-brand for The Pokemon Company to do something the wrong way. I just knew that Android at least doesn't let you access the camera without the app open and the screen on, so I had assumed it would be the same thing with the microphone access it wants for tracking sleep.

[–] geno@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t think it’s that. I have a sleep tracker called Sleep Cycle and its able to track everything on the background and with the phone screen off

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Sounds like the app is just poorly optimized, because sleep tracking with the screen off has been doable on Android for years now, and I assume it's the same for iOS sleep trackers, as well.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

What fire hazard? All bedding made in most parts of the world made in the last 50 years or so are made of very fire-retardant materials. It's actually really hard to set a bed on fire these days.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's actually really hard to set a bed on fire these days.

With cigarettes, sure. With an overheated lithium-ion battery? Not really

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, you can take a blowtorch to a modern mattress and you'll burn a hole through it, but it won't catch fire and spread at all.

In fact, that's literally how they test the flame retardant abilities of a mattress; it has to withstand at least 70 seconds of a blowtorch from a foot away. If the fire spreads, it's a fail. That's how most mattresses are tested under the 16 CFR 1640 standard.

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean that's great for the mattress, but before uour molten lava phone battery starts burning a hole in the mattress, the sheets and duvet and pillows and pajamas will already have gone up in a huge blaze so I don't think it's gonna help much.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Nope, all bedding materials have to undergo the same testing for flame resistance. This includes sheets, blankets, pillow cases, etc. Without the aid of any sort of accelerant, the most that'll happen is you'll get some smoke and charred bits.

Now granted, more people these days are buying bedding materials from Amazon sellers that may not be complying with US laws on these fire standards, so the risk is a bit higher if you're buying online from sellers you don't know. Which is why I always encourage people to NOT buy their bedding materials on Amazon, and instead but directly from a retailer in the US.

[–] Lockely@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

You can literally just Google "phone in bed fire" and find article after article after article about it.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 1 year ago

Hey, if cuddling a Charmander while I sleep is wrong, I don't wanna be right.

[–] cakey@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

there's no way they won't implement that later down the road......... right?