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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I still don't get what tankie means...

Edit: None of those comments helped. Especially the guy who unironically used the word "centrist".

[–] Lesrid@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The historic use of the word was to distinguish leftists who supported the Soviet Unions use of tanks to suppress a revolt in Budapest in 1956 from communists.

EDIT: Now it more generally refers to anyone who believes in Actually Existing Socialism, or AES, and by extension denies the categorization of State Capitalism, the predominant mode of production in the world today where governments employ the majority of workers.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn't it generally just all sort of authoritarian socialists or communists

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm a communist, but not a tankie because I use the dictionary definition of communism rather than pretending autocratic state capitalism is somehow communism.

Edit: Tankies getting triggered by the dictionary - you funny fascistic fucks, you.

[–] Lesrid@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's how it should be used but it's thrown around for basically anything. I got called a tankie for talking shit about the American military, never mentioned anything else. A few months ago, it really felt like Red Scare 2.0 on here.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's often now used for those socialists/communists who support China and especially Russia

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's what I'm saying, it isn't. It's used willy nilly in debates, regardless of the other users political allegiance. OP of this post got called a tankie two days ago lol.

What it means and what it's actually being used for are two different things.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I think we've had different experiences on how we've seen it used. Almost always I've seen it it has been used by a leftist towards some other leftist (well socialist, communist) who was supporting China, Russia, Iran, maybe Houthis nowadays and so on.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

although the term has seen increasing use by liberals and right‐wing factions as well. Source.

[–] s_s@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago

Top left of political compass.