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I have no issue with overdraft fees, which are normal (for credit accounts), but my problem is that to my understanding most cards in the US are credit cards (so overdraft-capable) by default. Rest of the world takes advantage of the more sane debit card.
Normal in the U.S.. When I was an expat in Austria, my bank didn’t charge anything for a negative account balance.
Actual poor people can't get credit cards, then a few dollars of overdraft puts them deep in the negative. Guess how many hours a minimum wage earning american has to work to overcome a SINGLE overdraft fee...
At 2.13 an hour, it's measured in days.
You either have a very different debit card system than the US, or a very different definition of the word sane. I assure you that in the US, debit cards are (generally) not the better option.
In fact, I can confirm it - you have it completely wrong. It is only debit cards that can have an overdraft. Credit cards are when you have an ongoing, semi-permanent line of credit available to you. Let's say this limit is $1,000. Each time you use it, the credit card issuer pays the merchant. If you attempt a purchase beyond that line of credit, you may (and often are) denied the purchase. If it does go through, you will have to pay an over-limit fee. The credit issuer then sends an itemized invoice, typically at the same time each month, and you must repay them. If you don't repay them in full by the deadline, you must pay interest. The main takeaway is that credit cards are always someone else's money at the time of purchase.
Debit cards are typically linked to your personal checking account. They work differently on the backend, but are usually similar at the point of sale. Checks, which link to the same account on the backend, often bypass validation of funds. Your bank processes the transaction on your behalf, but (again, typically) has not granted you any line of credit. If you get a transaction through where you don't have the funds, the bank is then forced by their agreements with the payment processor to extend you a line of credit. But the main takeaway is that debit cards are your own money, in your account, at the time of purchase.
It's a common (but dangerous) trick when you're low on funds to use credit cards to "float" an expense. Debit means you must have the funds presently available in your account, which often means they must have been deposited a few days ago. Credit means you have until your next statement to arrange them, which likely includes at least 1 payday.
"to my understanding most cards in the US are credit cards"
This statement confuses me a bit, but I guess that adds to the misunderstanding? Debit and credit cards are tied to different types of accounts. Which you're using depends on if you have the money and want it immediately removed from your checking account, or if you want to "borrow" and pay the total once a month.
When I helped my sons open their first checking accounts and got their debit cards, we had to "opt in" to not allow overdrafts and to have purchases cancelled, but that option would expire once they hit a certain age and would have to select it again. The backup to that is if you have a savings account, the accounts can be linked so that if you were to overdraft, the extra would be taken from savings to prevent overdraft fees.
These are all great things, assuming you have money in the first place. If you believe Americans are using credit cards more often than debit, it's probably 1) because CC companies incentivize us to do so, or 2) people just generally don't have the money to meet their needs in the first place, so juggle and borrow funds as they try to keep their heads above water.
That was my point, yes. Also, see my other comment, I live in Europe where credit lines (we do have the so-called "shopping" cards offering fixed installments for purchases but also overdraft at an ATM) aren't the norm here and people opening up such an account take it more seriously and pay attention not to overdraft. "Building your credit score" isn't a thing here. Confusing terms and scum agents promoting those cards do trick people into overdrafting and paying huge monthly interests (30% / year) instead of fixed installments, though.
See, your assertion rings as false for me, because as an American I've definitely run into things with my debit card where the problem was that the transaction was being treated as a check in the background, which meant it takes up to 3 business days to get through the check clearinghouse (even if you paid with your debit card and not a physical check), and during that period, that pending transaction doesn't even appear on your online statement. (In modern days, Venmo is bad about this, but in the past it was random places that could do it to you.) So if you didn't keep the mental tally of transactions and didn't have much money, it was very easy to forget an invisible pending thing and accidentally overdraft.
And, obviously, credit cards don't do the check clearinghouse thing, that's a debit card thing.
Given the things fucking up the gears is the check-style old-timey clearinghouse shit going on in the background, I fail to see how making the card/transaction even MORE "debit-y" would fix it.
So you, or me, or perhaps both of us, don't understand some significant differences in how your country processes debit transactions behind the scenes compared to mine.
Maybe you should elaborate how debit works in your country?
I guess it does work differently, and it depends on the bank. I'm in Europe. When I make a payment, let's say Saturday, that will actually be processed on Monday, the sum doesn't show up in my account anymore and I see it as a pending transaction. So I can't spend more than I have on a debit account.
The only time I would owe the bank are card reissue fees every few years, which could take the balance into the negative. But if you have multiple accounts with the same bank (including savings accounts) the fee is automatically withdrawn from other accounts. Also, no fees for the negative balance if it's a debit card. You can have it pending for months without issue.
I actually take advantage of not being able to overdraft by having a separate account and attached card that I only use for online payments. It normally stays on 0, and I only move money there before making an online purchase. If my card details are leaked / stolen, transactions would get refused (no money in the account), I would just close the card and request another one.
PS Given the downvotes, I understand I might have a wrong understanding and might confuse banking terms a bit, but I don't live in the US and I certainly wasn't taking the side of banks regarding the overdraft fees.