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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I think his point in this case is you own the physical item but not the information on it. If not then I could buy some musician's cd then I could say "Now I own their music" and start selling copies of their cd, publishing it, stealing their rights to it, etc. I think we can all agree that would be bad.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

'No, see, he meant exactly what you thought he meant.'

Again: I know the difference between individual property and intellectual property. I am condemning the corporate word-games that would deny one of those exists, and the the tutting of people who take that for granted. I don't need a fucking primer.

[–] CallumWells@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, you own the information on it. You don't own the rights to distribute it to others, but you bought the information and the right to personally use it. When you buy a painting, do you only have a licence to view it?

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When you buy a painting, do you only have a license to view it?

That's a good question. My guess is that the rights to create prints of the painting usually remain with the artist. You own that painting, you probably even own the right to display it for an entry fee, but unless the artist has granted you a license to the artwork, I don't think you can freely create copies.

[–] CallumWells@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Indeed, the right to make copies are often licenced (although you can also sell that right) because it is explicitly written in some conventions (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention?useskin=vector) that the copyright resides with the creator to begin with. I don't think the Berne Convention deals with the option of transferring intellectual property and the copyright to them, but I'm assuming it's mostly defined well enough in some contract law or other.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

I think we can all agree that would be bad.

You'd be surprised. There seem to be vanishingly few people here willing to honestly discuss the legal questions around piracy and copyright. The vast majority are just here to circle jerk about how much corporations suck, completely forgetting about the rights of artists they're defending in the anti-AI circle jerk one thread over. I honestly think they spend more time flaming anything they disagree with than actually putting any thought into the matter. The dogmatism rivals that of conservative forums.