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[–] aniki@lemm.ee -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

That's a letter U problem. I can administer Linux a bajillion times easier than windows, because I do it for a living, and haven't touched MS since Server 2010. Also Docker in Windows is LOL. You're leveraging Linux to shit on Linux. Lets do that all in IIS and see how you feel.

[–] Gh05t@beehaw.org 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is what’s holding the community back. The “get good” advice isn’t really advice and keeps Linux from hitting the mainstream. I get it you’re amazing at Linux but the rest of us shouldn’t have to go back to school to get a computer degree and become a Linux professional in order to use it. This is the same person that replies to questions about Linux with “why do you need the GUI just use the command line instead or it’s dead simple just type: followed by like 80 lines of code that people can’t make heads or tails of because they’re novices. Man I get that you want to flex but it’s a pretty strange flex.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

OTOH, many people can't make heads from tails regarding windows, icons or buttons, and they don't get the contextual clues that the GUI gives for any operating system. They don't see them, and if they do they're unable to make the automatic inferences most of us long time users obtain from them. They act as people who are blind from birth and suddenly see, who have problems to understand tridimensionality; the GUI is not in their mind model of how to work with computers, and they have a lot of difficulty interacting with it.

[–] Gh05t@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So that makes the “get good” advice valid? What are you talking about bro? I didn’t say Linux isn’t valid. I think you must have replied to me specifically on accident because your response isn’t germane to my reply. Or if you feel it is please explain. Make sure you use as many polysyllabic words as possible. I think you wrote up one of the Linux documents I’m to understand.

Or maybe I’ll just say: cool story bro.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So that makes the “get good” advice valid?

No, they're untrainable. It's literally impossible for them to get any good. At all.

[–] Gh05t@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Perfect. Good solution. Linux only for the elite.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

~~Linux~~ Computers only for the ~~elite~~ people willing to engage their brains.

FTFY

[–] Gh05t@beehaw.org 0 points 10 months ago

You have completely lost the plot. This topic is about Windows and Linux ease of use. I don’t know what you’re talking about anymore.

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I used Windows from 95 onward. Docker on Windows is second class compared to running on Linux.

That being said, I don't think it's that people cannot learn to use something like Ubuntu, it's that if they don't need to, they won't.

Good enough, is fine for the vast majority of folks. And I think Windows 11 proves that.

Like I had to learn OSX for my work computer, which I ended up loving. But that took me a week or so to get the hang of.

[–] Shirasho@lemmings.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

IIS is not the same as Docker. Sounds to me you are shitting on IIS for the sake of trying to prove a point I wasn't trying to make.

This goes into my next point. Linux users are toxic as hell. They are elitist snobs who shit on newbies because they have years of experience.

[–] AzzyDev@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago

This is a very dangerous, and unfortunately widespread, generalization. The shitty ones are the loudest ones, and I’m sorry that most of your experience with linux users has been with them. I promise, much of the community are kindhearted individuals who simply use linux because of its ideals, or because they’re developers, or privacy enthusiasts, or those who bought a steam deck and think the lack of windows is pretty neat.

[–] Gh05t@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago

This. This is truth!

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I started working for a company with a lot of Windows servers two years ago and I still can't wrap my brain around them. I've been a Linux sysadmin/sysarchitect for 20+ years and I'm still completely lost how to get Windows to much of anything. I usually don't have to do much on those servers, but when I do its StackOverflow that's really administering them. It's because I lack foundational knowledge about windows and also because I'm fine not having that knowledge.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago

Hold on, did you just low-key state that running Linux docker containers on Windows ends up giving you the best of both worlds? Run Linux server software in docker containers, run client software natively on Windows?