But the dude poked a bear with a sharp stick... Suing the creators of the story/characters you've built your content on for copyright infringement? Brilliant move....

[–] ANIMATEK@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

Right? Like I’d go write Harry Potter 8 and then sue WB lol that guy is nuts.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Suing the creators

JRR Tolkein has been dead for fifty years.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He explicitly sued Tolkiens estate. Effectively the same.

Your semantics aren't appreciated.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

'The artist, the artist, the artist! And whoever owns their corpse. Same difference, right? Just semantics.'

Every fucking thread with you cultists. Do you listen to yourself?

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Lmao, I don't even like Tolkiens work...

Nor do I agree with copyright law.

However; simply disagreeing with reality doesn't change it.

But; go ahead and continue to personally attack strangers on the internet instead of actually working towards the change you want to see. I'm sure it'll be effective.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You don't think that for the copyright laws to change we also need to change how we view it? How could you be properly critical of the copyright law if you refuse to make the distinction necessary for a certain type of criticism?

I get the "that's not how the world is" argument, but you can't talk about how the world could/should be by using only the word that describe the current state of the world. If you want to be critical of the existing system you need to develop a vocabulary that allows for such criticism.

For instance if you don't make the distinction between the creator and copyright holder you can't make criticism such as "you shouldn't be able to copyright works that you haven't created". You can't tell the difference between copyright owned by the creator and copyright owned by copyright owner because those two people are indistinguishable, so the entire criticism becomes nonsense.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If the estate had gone after the author, this would be a very different conversation; but that's not what happened. The author chose to involve Tolkiens estate, knowing the current climate around copyright.

I struggle to find sympathy for that.

Then you add on direct personal insults instead of constructive conversation and I completely check out. It's not worth my energy to have a discussion with such people.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You've clearly already checked out considering I'm not even the person who insulted you. Here's an idea, maybe don't partake in conversations you're not going to bother to even pay attention. I guarantee you'll automatically come across as less of an asshole.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

I'm not even the person who insulted you

I'm aware, the reply was still directed at you.

You've clearly already checked out

Yup, that's what I just said.

maybe don't partake in conversations you're not going to bother to even pay attention.

You're the third party entering the thread I created and a conversation I was having with someone else, long after I've clearly checked out.

Maybe don't involve yourself in other people's conversations and then expect their full attention.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Working toward change, but not making normative statements or highlighting problems in rationale. Obviously a real copyright reformist goes around tutting at those "semantics" while parroting the status quo.

Troll harder.

[–] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago

This is more like smacking a warhead with a hammer until it blows like in Loony Tunes. It is a shockingly suicidal decision with predictable results. He'll be in debt for the rest of his life and should be thankful the Tolkien estate didn't have him flayed for his impudence. Learning about how out of touch with reality the author is does make me curious how unhinged his book might be, though. If it turns out to be "The Room" of lotr fanficfiction I'd like to see it fan canonized just to spite the most litigious family in literature.