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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Let's be clear though, it wasn't because of his economic policy, it was his thorough mishandling of covid that got one million Americans killed which was the problem.

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

More significantly yes but let's not forget the massive tax cuts and regulation destruction he did

[–] tmyakal@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

I wish I'd bought a new washer/dryer before he pissed off China with that pointless trade war. Prices doubled overnight and have not come back down.

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't that his brainless decisions regarding economic policy did anything but make it worse.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Remember his trade wars with...everyone? And then he renegotiated the same agreements but worse?

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

I would love to not remember the entire four years; but I have to accept that the only chance to learn from it is to acknowledge that the shit did happen. Ugh.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it was worse, but with a sharpie pen. So there's that.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

"But why are there three copies? Which one is the real one?"

[–] Hux@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m not one for conspiracy theories, but the man didn’t do anything without the combination of someone telling him to do it and somehow that thing being made worth his while.

So, why the hell would he decide/be-told to disband the US Pandemic Response team in May 2018?

https://x.com/atomicanalyst/status/994696175575068672?s=46&t=g3yM8UdEINqcLyXIxWs-lg

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Apparently, Trump had a beef with his National Security advisor, and that advisor was good friends with the admiral in charge of the pandemic office. So, to punish the Advisor, Trump closed down his buddy's office.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s all so petty. And people still want this person to have power. Society is so confusing.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

These thoughts are not original to me.

The Boomers were mostly raised by people who'd survived the Depression and WW2. The parents were deeply scarred by those experiences and told the Boomers they had to be 'tough.' The Boomers grew up in a world of plenty, and never had any idea of what 'tough' really was. Men like Reagan and Trump, who built their image as 'tough guys' never got within a mile of actual combat. This is perfect for Boomers who spent their lives avoiding real conflict while thinking of themselves as bad ass pioneers.

The other thing is 'Future Shock.' A sociologist named Alvin Toffler and his wife wrote a book back in the 1970s. The idea of 'future shock' was that as the Industrial Age died and the Digital Era bloomed, a lot of people would be unwilling/unable to adopt to the changing world. They woudl try harder and harder to keep the past alive, even if it meant killing the future.

[–] Hux@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

The Presidency essentially sharing storylines with any predictable, tween drama. That’s totally normal and ok…

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think they handled it all according to the plan. It allowed them to sow distrust in everyone from doctors just trying to save people's lives, to the very government he was in charge of. It basically set the hook for his cult of "you can only trust me". And his cult believes that millions are going to die from the vaccine, and at the same time that people dying from COVID is "fake news".

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s called cognitive dissonance and Putin is a master class at it…

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 2 points 11 months ago

Indeed. I wish we could just trade him a pardon for all his crimes, and in exchange he must take his cult and all move to some remote place where they will be separated from the rest of the world. He can live out his remaining days as some god, and his cult members can stop messing up society for the rest of us. Ah, to dream.

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

His economic policies did cause severe damage, though. Yes, the pandemic made it even worse. But I disagree with saying it "wasn't" his economic policies. That implies his policies were productive; they were not.