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[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 61 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It wouldn't get anywhere in the US. Age is the closest protected class, but only applies to over 40 in the US. Discrimination based on month and day of birth isn't actually illegal.

[–] Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I honestly think there's a gray area here and it's worth talking to a lawyer if anything. There are certainly some protections for peoples under 40. Being denied a promotion because you're "too young" is certainly a protection. The catch is you have to prove it.

This case is easy to prove though if there are any laws over this.

Edit: but now that I think about it, this is only really a protection if you're already hired at the place. If you just slam the door on people before they can get in, discrimination seems to be legal.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I believe it's legal in the US to pass someone over for promotion because they're too young. The only protected class related to age is being over 40 (potentially different in some states).

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago

but now that I think about it, this is only really a protection if you’re already hired at the place. If you just slam the door on people before they can get in, discrimination seems to be legal.

Pretty sure that protection so applies to the application process. Can't have places rejecting every non-white candidate for being the wrong race. The problem is proving that you were rejected for a BS reason is really hard because they usually don't flat out say it, and especially not in writing

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 1 points 11 months ago

Being denied a promotion because you're "too young" is certainly a protection.

It's not actually. Age protections really do only apply to old people. If the person in the post is over 40 though, and got rejected for their birthday, they could probably at least get the company to overturn the rejection. Not sure how well they'd do in court. Most of this stuff doesn't get enforced well, and that one is already a stretch

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Whelp, time for arson then. Sorry, it's the rules.

[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What about star sign? That's got to be illegal, and it's p close to this

[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They listed the protected classes. Which one is astrology?

[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Yeah yeah not protected, but same could be said for requiring blond hair or blue eyes. Still discrimination

I am not a lawyer

[–] NateSwift@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They did specifically list genetics

[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How is that different from any other accident of birth that can't be changed? People really do discriminate based on when you were born:

Not hard to extrapolate a case from this. Imagine a landlord refusing to rent because you're a "scorpio" or an employer turning you down because they're looking for a "dog" person.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] MrZee@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. A lot of people in this thread are confusing what they believe should be illegal discrimination with what is actually illegal discrimination. Or they believe discrimination laws are more broadly encompassing than they are. There are a lot of kinds of discrimination that most of us agree is bad and shouldn’t be allowed… but unfortunately is not illegal.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Exactly. And though there are protected classes at the federal level, there are also some at the state level and they vary. I'm in California, and we have more than most. If you're a business owner or manager, you have to know what they are where you are or it can be really bad.

[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah more of a case for public shaming or filing a complaint or even just an honest Glass Door review

[–] LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Because requiring blond hair and blue eyes would, by definition, exclude people based on race.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Not necessarily true, but 100% discrimination based on genetics, which is a protected class.

[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago

Yeah bad example. I'm on break at work

[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And that's probably for the better.

[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Tell me how you really feel why don't you