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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you want to seriously do something about climate change, stop driving cars all the time.remake your cities to be bike and walk friendly, all of it.

Stop unbridled captialism. Buying shit you don't need fucks this planet.

Make EVERYTHING electric

Also, if you really care about climate change them you're screwed because humanity is fucked. We're not going to win this one. IF, and that is a huge if, we can win this one, the people seeing it will be the ones living in the year 3000, give or take...

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One kid will contribute far more greenhouse gasses than a car will. One fewer child saves 58.6 tonnes CO2-equivalent per year, whereas going car free is only 2.4 tonnes. One less kid is better than 24 people ditching their car.

And note I said step 1. Surely there are other actions, but not having kids is by far the largest impact.

The big problem is everyone wants people to take the actions that they are ok with. Vegans think the best way to stop climate change is ending animal agriculture. Transit and bike advocates tell us it’s ending cars. Those same people will happily have multiple kids and fly around the globe without a second thought.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Oh I'll agree there. Soon we'll be 8 billion while we should have tried to level off at the 2-3 billion mark

[–] SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you're fighting a losing battle. 'having kids is a good thing' is the only piece of propaganda that is distributed to probably every human. and probably the oldest one, too. it's also a base instinct, sort of hard to override by reasoning, as anyone who's ever been horny or hungry can probably attest. this is probably the best example on here related to the posted question.

for what it's worth, I do think you are correct

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Well, that’s why I thought it fits in this thread.