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[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Wouldn't the real last card be organizing & mounting a full blown insurrection? Not like the first attempt where he could try to keep his hands relatively clean of it, as he's tried to do in a number of other criminal schemes related to his businesses.

[–] PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Part of me wishes he would try it, because you just don’t come for the US Federal Government. Trump talks a big game and has a following, but the Feds are fucking psychos. These people killed MLK. These people have overthrown countless foreign governments. They’ve been trafficking drugs, weapons, and humans since before you and I were born.

I’m not saying I’m happy about it. I’m ashamed to be American every day that I wake up. But Trump is small potatoes to them. If he ever tried a coup for real it would end very badly for him, I promise you.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The system is designed to protect and preserve the status quo. Apparently he forgot that, I doubt he is up to date on his American history.

[–] DragonAce@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I doubt he knows the first thing about American history. Hes has several old teachers admit he was a fucking moron and IIRC there is documentation that Trump Sr paid his son's way thru school. So that moron probably knows less about US history than most middle school kids.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With the way the Republicans are speedrunning the destruction of the already fractured education system in this country I don't know if the middle schoolers are going to fare much better unfortunately.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago

Well if they can walk and talk at the same time they're already doing better than Donny.

[–] UristMcHolland@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Considering the dude literally can't read, i'd wager you are correct.

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And what if the feds got on board?

[–] Elderos@lemmings.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am convinced he wanted a full blown insurrection the first time around, and fully planned to enter the capitol as newly coronated emperor. He wanted armed protesters to hang around his rally, and he fully planned to go there. The reason he didn't is that once he got into his car the secret service over ruled his last-minute request (because he knew it would not be approved), and he got MAD. He tried to physically take control of the car, but yeah, apparently the president does not have the authority to put himself in harm's way.

[–] HewlettHackard@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Check out paragraph 81 of the indictment. One of his co-conspirators was having a discussion with a lawyer; the lawyer said staying in office past January 20 would trigger “riots in every major city in the United States, and the co-conspirator replied, “Well, [lawyer], that’s why there’s an Insurrection Act”.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Does it count as irony if Trump sees a crowd storming The Capitol in an attempt to kill legislators and the Vice President and says "these are patriots" but when he's informed that people will get upset if he breaks democracy and seizes power, he claims that they will be insurrectionists?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He and his merry band of idiot followers can't organise a coup, they don't have the collective brain power. IQ in the low 40s, no idea what's going on in the world outside of their bubble, and prone to infighting and arguing about whose conspiracy theory is the correct conspiracy theory.

They all think they would just march in waving their guns around, and automatically win, but what would actually happen is they'd end up getting cut to ribbons, then the rest would run away.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you dont need millions of smart people. you only need a few hundred smart ones to guide the army of idiots

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

If I could describe the Republican party in two sentences, this would be it. They know they are liars too, but they just don't care as long as their voters do.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Wouldn’t the real last card be organizing & mounting a full blown insurrection? Not like the first attempt where he could try to keep his hands relatively clean of it, as he’s tried to do in a number of other criminal schemes related to his businesses.

I doubt he'd be capable of orchestrating that. he threw his insurrectionists under the bus last time by inciting them and then not pardoning them; Trumpers willing to do such a thing are in or going to prison. Makes it hard to incentivize the next batch.

He's lost support in the military. Can you imagine him trying to lead troops like a general? It would be the shortest coup ever. He'd probably change enemy troop locations with a sharpie because he doesn't like where they are.

Trump is good at spewing vile rhetoric, he's not competent or popular enough to carry out a successful violent insurrection.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

He only didn’t support them because it failed. Otherwise he would have gone all the way.

[–] BigNote@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not to mention that the US military's senior officer corps absolutely despises him for a suite of reasons that should be obvious to anyone who's been half awake and has a brain.

[–] mayo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/read-full-the-indictment-against-trump-for-his-efforts-to-overturn-the-2020-election

Paragraph 83

Trump is briefed on an overseas national security issue, given some options to respond and his reply is "we'll leave that for the next guy" since it was too close to inauguration day.

I can't imagine Trump is popular with anyone outside of this stans.

[–] 520@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Perhaps it was intended to be. Maybe even Trump is surprised he's still alive and out if jail