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[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Stop trying to make Nikki Haley happen. She's not gonna happen.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She's better than the other chucklefucks on the Republican debate stages.

Would you really rather Trump or DeSantis if it was inevitable that a Republican wins the presidency?

Plus, if she gets the Republican nomination, it's very likely Biden becomes a shoe-in because Trump would either be disqualified or running as an independent (which would really split Republican voters).

[–] tillary@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

If it's inevitable, sure. But it's by far not inevitable. I'd rather take my chances against Trump, because Biden has already shown able to beat him and Trump would rally the democratic base to vote more than if Haley were running. If republicans have realized this, they're smart to swap their focus to a new nominee.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She will be the VP or front runner depending on if Trump goes to jail.

[–] Arcane_Trixster@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Repubs won't vote a woman in to the White House. Especially if she's currently trailing DeSantis who has become a joke candidate.

They do not have a legitimate contender outside of Trump. Which is ridiculous considering who the opponent will be.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump wants a loyal disruptor who is willing to go on the attack with nonsense. Haley has demonstrated all of those qualities, and she can mollify conservative women who feel icky voting for Trump. She is the best choice for VP out of the candidates still in the race. He's not going to pick Meatball or anyone who has directly criticized him. Every critism she's leveled at the former president has been wrapped in compliments, so he'll smugly claim victory when she joins him at the podium.

And if Trump bows out, is ruled out by the courts, or is otherwise unavailable, his supporters aren't going to back DeSantis or Christie. She wins the bigotry ladder competition with Ramaswamy, and she'll say whatever she needs to say to convince conservatives that she will be their woman in the White House. Trumpers will slide over to her camp and say "see, we're not the misogynists, you are!"

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I think it’s between her, ramaswamy, and trump making the decision that running in the primaries against him was a show of bad faith that disqualifies you.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Vivek would need to change his name before most of the Republican base would be willing to pull a lever next to his name. Like "Nikki" did.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I actually don’t. The Ramaswamy next to it is still gonna say it. There’s gonna be the people who think America is only for white people, they know who they’re voting for. The name change is more effective for the low information voter and with someone who could pass for white in certain circumstances.

What you’ve got with him is an Indian businessman who is very loudly Hindu in ways that sound just like Christianity (very clearly playing the same game that Shapiro et Al do with their Judaism). And the Hinduism is what I think might be what stops him. He’ll get some of the Christian right, but not enough.

What I think he really has going for him though is everyone else is trying to be trump but with control and follow through or trump but without the baggage or something similar. Vivek, Vivek is trying to out crazy trump. “Y’all loved the wall idea, so fuck you two walls. I’m going to build a second wall to keep the Canadians out too.” That’s fucking insane, but so is trump. If he can make them feel like he understands them and can rile them up right then it might go as well as a rich New Yorker yelling about coastal elites and pretending to shovel coal.