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It’s Official: With “Vermin,” Trump Is Now Using Straight-up Nazi Talk He’s telling us what he will do to his political enemies if he’s president again. Is anyone listening?

I feel pretty safe in saying that we can now stop giving him the benefit of that particular doubt. His use—twice; once on social media, and then repeated in a speech—of the word “vermin” to describe his political enemies cannot be an accident. That’s an unusual word choice. It’s not a smear that one just grabs out of the air. And it appears in history chiefly in one context, and one context only.

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Not convicted" is actually not a requirement. Being a natural born US citizen and at least 35 of age are the only ones, although specific convictions could bar him from holding specific offices.

If all of his lawsuits remain undecided until the elections there is nothing stopping him (and presumably finding a way to pardon himself ex post facto somehow).

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He will appeal any and everything. He's litigious and has enough funds to run this for a while.

He's also a former president so he'll count on special standing.

Convictions may - or should - move votes, but I fully expect him to be on ballots throughout the nation next year. A few states may use the 14th Amendment, but if any states prevail in that, I don't expect they were likely to go for him anyhow.

Someone will tell me I'm wrong, but states that want Trump enough do shady things. Also, anyone coming here with a sirens song about how Trump will be convicted and the DOJ really knows this matters... Let's see how this goes. I'm sure they're serious. I'm also sure the justice system will give him every chance to prove himself not guilty.

We must beat him at the ballot box. And we should prepare that way.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He's litigious and has enough funds to run this for a while.

That's actually a big question especially if his businesses are seized.

[–] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's been pulling millions in donations for his legal defense. He won't have a problem there.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Claimed and he's under investigation for the use of those funds. Similarly he hasn't paid his legal team, it's a big issue for them.

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This encapsulates what I've been seeing here.

He will appeal that ruling. They have been trying to set multiple reasons why if should be allowed - and he'll try them all and then some.

The court where this ends (before 2025), is the court of public opinion. Or we get lucky that every layer rejects his claims that an appeal is warranted because x.