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[–] douz0a0bouz@midwest.social 61 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I know some software engineers like that. Some of it is knowing that the companies that make iot devices don’t give a crap about security. Some of it is plain ol paranoia. Mechanical door locks can be picked does that mean you invest in guard dogs? Crime is a thing but so is misanthropy. I think we should take reasonable precautions but believe that there are more good ppl than bad.

[–] Linssiili@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

In a meeting with a (business) customer regarding security precautions, my coworker had a great suggestion: we buy a mountain in ~~Switcherland~~ Switzerland, build a bunker there for the servers and hire a private army for protection. The customer liked the idea...

[–] Damage@feddit.it 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is Switcherland on the Ethernet continent?

[–] Linssiili@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I knew it was a mistake to not to check dow it's spelled

[–] 1847953620@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[–] perviouslyiner@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Bahnhof has a data centre in Stockholm like that - lots of ex-military bunkers around.

[–] general_kitten@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

actually good mechanical door locks can only be picked by a handful of people in the world with special tools most of whom are locksmiths

[–] bort@feddit.de 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

the word "picked" does a lot of heavy lifting here.

Most professional thieves won't care about damaging your lock. It's called "breaking" and entering for a reason.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And if your door is super reinforced better hope your wall is too

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah but how many people looking for a smash and grab are going to bring tools to cut through a wall instead of just going next door or through the window?

[–] douz0a0bouz@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And a properly secured network can’t be compromised by some amateur thief sitting in their car. Point was that foolproof security is a fantasy.

[–] bladerunnerspider@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I think the real point is that mechanical locks don't track when you leave and enter your home like electronic ones do. Not whether they are better or worse than mechanical.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Point is reducing attack surface by not having internet connected lock 🙄

[–] almar_quigley@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A “hacker” breaking into your house is a fantasy. If some one wants in they are….breaking….into your house. Ie breaking your door or window. Mechanical or not doesn’t make a difference. It’s all security theater. However you can know the status of internet connected locks at least.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I'm not just talking about locks. I'm talking about the concept of IoT itself.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

And those locks cost hundreds a piece. A "there is a security system here" sign would do more useful work. And a locksmith will tell you that picking is what you try AFTER you just try bypassing the lock entirely. Aka shim the door or break a window. Exactly what a burglar will do if they really wanted in. You do know that your garage door can be disabled with a coathanger threaded inside and grabbing the release hook, right? Or a jack wedged under with a crowbar, right? Or your decorative gnome in the front yard thrown through a window? Locks are a deterrent.

[–] douz0a0bouz@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

But if my printer ever laughs at my bad jokes I’m keeping my hammer ready, just in case.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Locks can be picked, but good locks require picking skills far beyond what the average break and entry will have. They can be drilled, but that's loud and increases the odds of being caught.

A software vulnerability can be triggered silently and will look like you're an expected guest.

They'll likely just smash the window in the back yard though so it's a moot point

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s not just poor security that’s easily hackable, it’s mainly the unreliability and frustration of having to continue to work when you get home to fix your dam light switch because it doesn’t work because it got out of sync when the microwave is turned on. No thanks.