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Wait, really? So you think Matrix is the ultimate form of secure and private "chat" communities? Because if it is not then it is a compromise.
This Lemmy instance for sure as hell is not the most private and secure.
It's a lot better than discord, that's for sure
I agree with you. I don’t understand why people are arguing that something less developed or stable is a valid reason to use something like discord, a widely anti privacy focused platform; to discuss privacy related topics.
You can argue that it’s more stable but the cost is shepherding users into a platform they might think is secure by promoting it. In my opinion that’s worse because it lulls uneducated users into a false sense of security by having the community use and engage with each other there. The implication alone might cause some people not to second guess it since it’s supported by the community and that’s a problem for me personally.
Never used it but I can imagine it being better. Discord is annoying as hell. Point was that the commenter seemed to argue that you should not accept any compromises, which seems silly to me.
That depends on your threat model. All lemmy posts are publicly visible and can be scooped up by Farcebook, google et al. Discord is very definitely not properly private but all posts aren't public. They are undoubtedly doing the same thing FB does and selling a semi anonymised set of meta data about you, but the world doesn't have direct visibility
I know the three letter acronyms have access to everything I do, hidden or not, I don't like it but I don't see anyway around it.
I can however do my level best to keep FB, google, M$ out of my stuff to some extent
They said a "big" compromise? Why did you skip over their qualifier? Are all compromises equal?
Where did they say that?
I dunno. The comment doesn't have the word in it now; that's why #1981 is important. But, maybe they didn't and I imagined it.
It remains true that not all compromises are equal, and the privacy compromises we make for Discord are relatively large compared to the ones for Matrix.
There is an "edited" indicator for posts, and the post you're referring to doesn't have it.
Sure, your point is true, but you were (incorrectly) accusing the other commenter of skipping a qualifier that would make your point relevant.
You're right; Voyager doesn't show the "edited" flag.
I was mistaken about the word, and the accusation about skipping over it was unwarrented.
I think this is missing the point by arguing semantics, but my phrasing was wrong.