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[โ€“] blazera@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Modern Israel should not have been created.

[โ€“] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And what should have happened then?

Or do you mean that the entire circumstances of it being necessary shouldn't have been.

Also... Besides their current government shifting towards being basically Nazis, why not?

[โ€“] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not the OP, but the reasons for creating a country of the other people's land was basically religious, that makes it automatically a mistake.

[โ€“] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No jews actually are considered a "race" because the only way to actually become Jewish is to be born from a Jewish mother.

And other peoples land? You know how many times that place of earth switched hands? How far do you need to go back to "rightfully" own land?

[โ€“] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't care. They're using idiotic arguments to justify atrocities. They get zero sympathy from me.

[โ€“] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They as in jews in general or the Israeli government? ๐Ÿคจ

The latter. And those who adhere, of course.

[โ€“] blazera@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The refugees get sent back to their original towns where they can, taken in by allied nations, or taking land from Germany or other axis power as reparation.

Instead they took land from a nation not even involved in the war with the express purpose of forming an ethnostate, not even just for the displaced Jews.

[โ€“] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry but that wasn't a nation, it was a British colony, your entire point is invalid because they got land from them...

[โ€“] blazera@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The refugees get sent back to their original towns where they can, taken in by allied nations, or taking land from Germany or other axis power as reparation.

You literally said the allied countrys should take them... They did.

[โ€“] blazera@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Britain being an asshole military subjugator doesnt make them allies, they were fighting for independence and im gonna recognize it.

[โ€“] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh you mean allies of the jews?

So nobody in this world?

Stop shifting the goalposts. Israel is legit and the only way to prevent another holocaust. Their government right now is a different story. And a "Palestine" country doesn't exist. Its a terrorist organization.

[โ€“] blazera@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no, I mean the allied powers during the war. Im not interested in the technicality that Britain was oppressing an arab nation at the time, Palestine was not involved.

[โ€“] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was Britain during that time.

[โ€“] blazera@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No it was a nation oppressed by Britain, seeking independence. They didnt consider themselves British. My mind's not gonna be changed by old, oppressive British colonialism.

[โ€“] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't have to "consider yourself part of [insert country]" to be part of said country.

[โ€“] blazera@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man you are really adamant old Britain being imperialistic tyrants is a justification for this. Well Ive already said its not gonna change my mind, and its just us two talking, so I guess Ima head out.

Man you are defending a place that does not exist.