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During the first hearing of the impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden, Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene was interrupted for a specific request – to not show pornography.

Ms Greene said at the House Oversight Committee hearing, “It is sad that my Democratic colleagues pretend to care about women’s rights while allowing Hunter Biden to exploit women.” She was holding up a blown-up photo of a plane ticket and a photo of a nearly-naked woman for whom Hunter Biden allegedly purchased the ticket.

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[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

He's taken a few steps to help his son which could make him an accomplice, but only if Hunter is a criminal.

They're stretching, but they know that. They just want something to stretch.

[–] nick@campfyre.nickwebster.dev 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure that's really true. The only thing they've pointed at is that prosecutor being fired in Ukraine, but that was because the prosecutor was corrupt and people all over the world were calling for it. Also the prosecutor was notably corrupt by not investigating the company Hunter was working for (so Joe getting them fired actually went against his son's interests)

[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well no it's not true. They're just saying it, and I only repeat it here because the question was asking for their argument and not facts. Biden almost certainly has a bias for his son (go figure, most dads would) but I haven't heard anything that's actually substantiative in regards to impeachment. They're all hot air.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Shokin did not start Burisma investigation, according to his deputy the case was completly dormant the entire less than the year he was in office (yes, he was in the office for less of a year in total).

All political parties in Ukraine (except the ruling one which was blocking the process) started his impeachment, because of the corruption and also because he refused investigating who ordered to open fire at protesters during Euromaidan protests.

His removal was requested by the United States, European Union, World Bank and IMF. Either Hunter really has a lot of friends or Joe Biden was doing his job, by refusing to provide aid until office responsible to crack on corruption was doing its job.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that "shit shit, I almost blew my cover"?

[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did "They're stretching, but they know that. They just want something to stretch." not let you know I thought they were full of shit the whole time?

Their whole platform is nothing but stretching lies into shit that sounds just barely true enough that it isn't immediately shut down.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's taken a few steps to help his son which could make him an accomplice, but only if Hunter is a criminal.

He hasn't taken any steps to help his son with Burisma or Ukraine or anything legal, afaik (and the GOP would be shouting it from the rooftops if it existed). He maybe have taken steps to help his son with addiction, but that wouldn't make him an accomplice. Hunter is a criminal.

Your opening sentence looks like a propaganda admission that's followed with backtracking to gain normal human support. Maybe you didn't intend that, but that one opening sentence looks sus af.

[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well your statement made me look into it and I was just wrong on a few things. I thought Biden was more active in what his son was doing. I didn't think it was illegal, but I did think it was a mutual thing.

Looking into it, though, that's not at all true. I apparently did buy into some of the propaganda. Thanks for keeping me honest and not just being a dick about it, always nice to have a good interaction online.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's also hard to tell if someone's being genuine. I think people grossly underestimate the amount of foreign, nation state level propaganda that occurs on social media. And even if they acknowledge it exists in general, they rarely suspect they've encountered it.

I don't think the US government actively participates, but they absolutely monitor. If the US does participate , it's indirectly by asking someone else to do it for us, ala Five Eyes. There are other governments that give zero fucks about getting caught.

US political parties absolutely do though. I'm actually surprised Hillarys's campaign got so much shit for clearly labeling when they did it with "Correct the Record". Though they picked a shitty name, I think that was the right way to go about things.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

(X) doubt. If he had done anything illegal, the repubs would have made that known by now. Instead it’s going to be a boatload of bullshit allegations.

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Indeed. They've already investigated this six ways from Sunday, and they've found nothing. It's Hilary and Benghazi all over again - the modern republican strategy of repeating a edit: ~~law~~ lie often enough people start to believe. With their base, it doesn't even take that much repetition.