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[โ€“] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 4 points 18 hours ago (21 children)

I don't get it, didn't Russia do exactly what the US is doing a preventive bombarding? Is today opposite day?

[โ€“] remon@ani.social 49 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (9 children)

You do realise Iran is direclty supplying weapons to Russia that are used against Ukraine. Did you really expect for Ukraine to side with Iran here? It seems a lot of people are forgetting what a shitty country Iran actually is ...

[โ€“] Saleh@feddit.org 14 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

Israel also supplied Drones to Russia after the Crimea invasion, didn't join sanctions and as reported by an Ukrainian official demanded Ukraine to surrender behind closed doors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Russia_relations

Now with the US getting itself dragged into another Iraq style war by Israel, Ukraine could suffer in two major ways:

  1. Western military aid will be cut short in favor of Israel and US
  2. The rising energy prices will lead to Russia's strained warchest to replenish and could even lead to EU countries easing sanctions to buy oil and gas from Russia again.

Ukraine is being played by the US and Israel but either plays along because Zelensky is high on Zionism or because Ukraine by now is owned by the US and he has to say everything Trump wants him to say. Either way this is bad for the Ukrainian people and it is delusional to think that anyone in the West would feel emboldened now to bomb Russia.

[โ€“] mgnome@piefed.social 6 points 15 hours ago

I'll say most Ukrainians wish both sides "best of luck" (source: I'm Ukrainian) - to Israel because they supplied Lancet and Orlan technologies to Russia, to Iran because they supplied Shaheds and ballistic missiles to Russia, so these things are what directly impacted our lives and made them much worse.

As for why Zelensky sings praises for Taco Don from time to time - I don't believe that latter one can be swayed to help Ukraine (and Zelensky probably doesn't believe that too) but there's still Congress, that is somewhat cooperative from time to time, and we really need these sanctions that Taco Don now tries to delay and dilute.

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