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Brett Wilkins Jun 16, 2025

Flight-tracking websites showed dozens of Air Force aerial refueling planes departing from military bases in the United States and heading to Europe on Sunday, fueling speculation of direct U.S. involvement in the widening Israeli-Iranian war.

Military-focused news sites reported that around 30 U.S. Air Force KC-135R and KC-46A tankers were identified by flight-tracking software in what The Times of Israelcalled an "unprecedented mass deployment" to Europe.

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[–] sudo@programming.dev 15 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

This would have to be the most unpopular war in US history and yet I think everyone Trump has surrounded himself with is telling him to do it.

[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I think Trump is attempting to scare Iran into accepting his nuclear deal. The only problem with this tactic is that Iran might not believe him as they know how deeply unpopular the war would be.

[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

This might sound insane but every single wartime president has gotten a huge boost to their approval ratings due to media networks circulating pure propaganda nonstop. Even NPR will start doing positive coverage.

[–] sudo@programming.dev 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The consent manufacturing machine will rev up like it always does. There's already attempts to get us on board with a the fantasy of a regime change. As though that won't lead to another ISIS or Libya.

But I really don't think the average liberal boomer is going to fall in line behind Trump like they did Bush. And certainly not anyone younger. Dem leadership is probably already on board though.

[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know if he's serious about regime change in iran. He seems to negotiate from a raft of threats and lies. Hopefully it's all for show but if the war does go down my guess for approval ratings is over 60%. Not quite Bush I or ii numbers due to decline in news consumption.

[–] sudo@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

I doubt anyone in power is deluded enough to think they can actually reinstate the Shah or something. They probably just want to bomb every piece if infrastructure in Iran and not worry about them for a few decades.

But regime change absolutely is the fantasy they are trying to sell liberals.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago

the exception was covid, there was a huge downturn in recruitments, and they were getting worried. but military propaganda: top gun maverick helped boost numbers up. also the fact that they loosen some restrictions to join the military too. i was in a forum of people joining, during the obama years, and it was getting tougher to join. its mostly due to medical conditions that prevent people from joining.

[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

It also isn't true. LBJs approval rating absolutely tanked because of the Vietnam war.

Johnson's approval ratings had dropped from 70 percent in mid-1965 to below 40 percent by 1967

https://millercenter.org/president/lbjohnson/foreign-affairs

[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

It was perceived that he was losing the war and lying to the public about the successes that they claimed to have achieved.

But winning wars, even unjust ones, always gets the president brownie points in the eyes of the public and corporations