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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Basically, it’s like watching two of the worst people you know go at it in a fight.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Iran has problems, for sure, however it's hardly the worst state in the region. In fact, on multiple occasions they've been willing to work with the UN and US to try and rejoin the international community.

The issue is both Israel and the US have acted like utter asses towards them.

Obama's nuclear deal showed just how willing they were to engage in diplomacy. Even after Trump killed the deal, Iran was saying they'd be willing to renter again.

And frankly, the reason for Israel's attack was almost surely because the Trump admin was again getting close to signing another nuclear deal.

There's way too much conflating of Islamic nations and their policies. Iran isn't perfect or great, but it is better than a fair number of the regions governments including many current allies.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

Honestly when I read this it’s just like “you think Iran is bad but really the whole area is a cesspool” not that I personally disagree with that take but not sure you meant to throw the entire region under the bus, where it belongs

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

That would be the US fighting Israel

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah like, can they both lose please?

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I think that's how wars usually go

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago

"Can the British Empire and Nazi Germany both lose please"