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In a bid to tackle what President Emmanuel Macron described as "a senseless surge of violence," the French government will issue a decree "within 15 days" banning the sale of knives to minors.

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[โ€“] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Next time a child throws a rock at another will you ban rocks too?

[โ€“] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They're just looking to stop kids going and buying knives they're obviously not going to use for cooking. It's not as ridiculous a statement as you're making out here, to be fair.

[โ€“] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Knifes are not only for cooking, and they are just fun to play around with, when I was a kid we built makeshift shelters in the forest near the town with knifes and hammer and even a saw.

The problem is not the knife, but the children not being property disciplined on how to use them. Restrictions on this common of an item will never work because even if you make the perfect system so no child can ever buy one, they will just get one from home or use a broken piece of glass.

There are a lot of dangerous things in our world, restricting the access to them is just impossible and frankly stupid.

[โ€“] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're just looking to limit access from that one avenue. That's all. It's the same as booze; we don't sell booze to kids, even if it's fun to drink, and even tho they can get it plenty of other ways. It's just about limiting access.

[โ€“] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah it makes sense, I do agree knifes should not be sold to children.

[โ€“] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Equally, I agree that it's a miserable state of affairs that we have to view knives as dangerous weapons rather than tools.

[โ€“] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Do we really have to view them as such, or do only a few deranged individuals want us to? ("deranged individuals" explicitly and especially includes hysterical "security" politicians with ulterior motives)

[โ€“] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I was commenting on the fact that it's a shame that people use tools like knives, that have other actual utilities, to hurt each other.

[โ€“] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Which is unfortunate, but still a pretty unlikely niche phenomenon, and no reason to do stupid things out of blind panic.

Personally, I think restricting under-18s from buying knives isn't a huge deal. I'm surprised they were allowed to buy bladed tools in the first place honestly, as that's been illegal in my country for as long as I've known. There is also rising concern about knife crime in France, as per the article, but I agree these things can often be blown out of proportion.

[โ€“] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When i was a child, we would always go to the south of france on vacation. That was also the place where i got all my mall ninja shit from. I wasn't used to stores or markets where you could just buy a machete and a butterfly knife as a 10 year old. Also fireworks. I completely understand the ban, and i still absolutely love some good knifes, it's just expensive knifes now.

Yeah I'm so surprised to learn under-18s can buy knives in France!! Or could, before this, I suppose. Fireworks, too?? ๐Ÿ˜‚

I am more of a Tzeentch guy though, personally... ๐Ÿ‘€