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I'm not one for conspiracy theories but I do look at as many angles as I can think of. This seems like a perfect opportunity to settle out of court and thus funnel millions of tax dollars to a militia that will serve trump to the end.
I'm 100% convinced these Nazi militias make up the majority of the "ICE agents" we're seeing. That's why they don't identify themselves. These fuckers deserve anything they get.
Which is hopefully handfuls of lead.
Be sure to adjust your sights at a range before sending lead, practice practice practice
Tell that to Tommy Crooks ;)
At least 55 grains if not 62 grains of oat
Oh, no need to wonder - liberals have successfully convinced themselves that disarming themselves is the answer.
Pretty sure disarming everyone was the answer. But I don’t see gun enthusiasts stepping up to stop fascism, so looks like gun aren’t a part of it.
That’s what I said
It's an answer for anyone that's unwilling to accept reality as it is, but sure.
And yet here we are in reality, with all these guns, and you mfers don’t do anything. Pansy-asses. You’re like a force fed goose.
Jesus christ, how many times does this need to be spelled out?
There are people who agree that guns are bad and they are disarming themselves. There are people who disagree and are arming themselves. It just so happens they also support the current govt.
If you could go back 40 years ago and change so many things, sure taking guns away seems like a good call. It is not to anyone that actually understands reality.
Plenty of people who don’t support the government have guns. The point is no one is brave enough to use the guns either way.
There will be no revolutions. This is the next 50 years at least.
In 2022 every ideologically driven mass killing in the U.S. was carried out by the far right with an overwhelming number being carried out by white supremacists. In 2025 to date, every ideologically driven mass killing has been from the far right (this is no different than 2024, I have not looked at 2023 but I'm willing to bet the answer is the same). School shooters are overwhelmingly conservative.
You're right about them being cowards, you're wrong about them being unwilling to use them. You're right that there won't be revolutions, there will be massacres. They are waiting for the green light from their overlords that allows them to, legally, kill you.
Once they start getting shot back at, they will run and hide like the right-wing cowards they are.
Nice talk, they have armored vehicles and hate in their hearts.
They have hate, yeah. But they don’t have armored vehicles—unless you mean the police—they have ford trucks with thin metal walls and diabetes.
I'm sorry, I must be living in a schziophrenic delusion and the U.S. federal govt hasn't been slip and sliding into the deep end of the fascism pool and definitely hasn't been dumping resources and manpower (MAGA, let's be honest with each other - ICE is MAGA) into ICE. Thank God, that would be horrifying!
I think we may be talking about two different things. My neighbor, with the Trump flag and all his guns, he’s not gonna do goddamn shit. That’s who I’m talking about.
I'm talking about my cousin. He runs a grocery store (he claims he owns it, but really he leases it through Grocery Outlet).
I know some of the things he's done. I know many of the things he's said. They are terrifying.
I had no idea leasing a grocery store was a thing. They won’t let us own anything lol.
If you know some of the things he has done, I assume he has been punished for those things—assuming they are crimes?
Yeah it's bizarre, I'm not sure if that's the correct verbage for it but the situation is effectively leasing. He does not own the store despite being the name and face on the sign saying 'store owner'.
He's got connections, cops love him. My friend has video of him kicking the ever loving shit out of a homeless guy a few years ago. He also helped him delete it. I've told him to turn him in but he's afraid that something will go wrong and it'll turn back around on him.
You could always turn him in.
I have considered it, and I've asked my friend for a copy of the recording. He refuses to send it to me, for the reasons I've listed. I'm also concerned that some of other things I'm aware of would destroy other members of our family (Not MAGA, he ends up being the only MAGAt in the family. Oddly as well - his mother ended up living with an immigrant from Mexico.).
I would be suspicious that the video ever existed, if it weren't for my cousin bragging about defending his house by firing off rounds at a moving car he deemed 'filled with gang bangers'. Fortunately he didn't harm anyone, he just put a few holes in his neighbors car and broke their window. No punishment, as you can probably guess.
My family is also entirely convinced that he's a great man. None of them seem to recognize what he actually is, and this seems pretty consistent across all the people I've met who know him (yes he had me convinced as well).
Genuinely - simply talking about it makes me sick. I am conflicted, at my core. I understand that guns simply make the world a more dangerous place, especially assault weapons. I am under no illusion that 'good guy with gun stop bad guy with gun'. If that were the true, either I or someone else would have shot my cousin by now.
I'm sorry if I was hostile towards you, or really anyone else in this thread. I understand that their responses are filtered through the immediate assumption that I must be a fascist 'dunking on the libs', because I've chosen a topic that MAGA have ingrained into their ideology. I don't hate them, or you, for it — believe it or not, I am genuinely afraid for each and every one of you.
I’m afraid for myself bud. Do I care enough to fight or do I fuck off to Canada? Hard choices.
What in the sweet fuck are you even talking about?
Maga likes guns. Maga will not disarm. Maga hates liberals. Liberals dislike guns. Liberals are disarming.
God forbid I pay attention to what's going on in the U.S.
I'm a liberal. Been a hunter all my life. I love guns.
You are making generalizations not factual statements.
Exception, not the rule - and the people downvoting me prove it. No one likes to be told their worldview is wrong.
Edit: look into ideologically driven murders in the U.S., then look at ICE getting 20k more troops and natl guard deployed to LA. Look at the toys they have and tell me your hunting rifle is going to do anything when they have fucking tanks and riot armor.
Ok buddy.
I don't think they understand a vocal minority.
MAGAs make firearms a part of their identity.
I'm guessing you'd agree that most liberal gun owners don't?
I think gun ownership and political ideology are a venn diagram and trying to generalize it is just dumb. It's also very regional. I live in upstate NY, belong to a rod and gun club and politics do come up but very few people present them as identity.
Good thing the NRA are there to imply the right to bear arms against foreign enemies and kings as is their argument every single time. Perhaps they will implement it now. Perfect opportunity.
Anytime now…
Good thing we didn’t take their guns…
Any
Time
Now….
Oh and your entire idea is to blame the dems for this too.
Fucking brown shirt bootlickers
Labelling this conspiracy means you haven't been paying attention. This is exactly what they've been using lawsuits and settlements for over the last 18 months. That and the crypto bullshit to funnel bribes.
This isn’t a theory, white protecting white is baked into the founding documents of this country. Of course it’s a scam to funnel money, that’s all they do