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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

can't wait for the training set biases to cause a fresh horror for marginalised groups that happen to have to use this shit because it's forced on them. I'm sure it'll all go perfectly and nothing bad will happen

:|

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Remember those comments with links in them bots leave on dead websites? Imagine instead of links it sets up an AI to think of certain specific behaviour or people as immoral.

Swatting via distributed hit piece.

Or if you manage to figure out that people are using a LLM to do input sanitization/log reading, you could now figure out a way to get an instruction in the logs and trigger alarms this way. (E: im reminded of the story from the before times, where somebody piped logging to a bash terminal and got shelled because somebody send a bash exploit which was logged).

Or just send an instruction which changes the way it tries to communicate, and have the LLM call not the cops but a number controlled by hackers which pays out to them, like the stories of the A2P sms fraud which Musk claimed was a problem on twitter.

Sure competent security engineering can prevent a lot of these attacks but you know points to history of computers.

Imagine if this system was implemented for Grok when it was doing the 'everything is white genocide' thing.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 7 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Gonna go ahead and start counting the days until an unarmed black person in the US gets killed in a police interaction prompted by this fucking nonsense.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Think this already happened, not this specific bit, but ai involved shooting. Esp considering we know a lot of black people have been falsely arrested due to facial ID already. And with the gestapofication of the USA that will just get worse. (Esp when the police go : no regulations on AI also gives us carte blance. No need for extra steps).

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 11 hours ago

yeah it's gonna happen way too damn fucking quickly (and way too damn fucking many times, too)