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[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

I have said this elsewhere, but i will not again vote for the Democratic Party until they actually put up progressive candidates. Not pinky swear to pass progressive policy. That means the candidates has to have a provable history of struggling against the Democratic Party to pass progressive policy. There are only two i know of and that’s Bernie Sanders (who is too old for the presidency), and AOC. Else it’s third party until the democrats learn better.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I will vote for the democrats if I am able to transfer my vote after my real choices dont win. Best get on that electoral reform blue states.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

I will vote against genocide, even if it means voting for a lesser amount of genocide. I'll never vote "no preference" on genocide.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world -3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

because nothing says America wants left wing government more clearly than electing the republicans!

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

That was a calculation made by democrat leadership. They banked on further alienating progressives for their donors, and to push for the Republican values they truly want. Every compromise against progressive platforms has been a full rightward tilt. They miscalculated the severity of their abandonment of progressive voters. Arguments to “vote blue no matter who” and “don’t let perfect be the enemy of good” are obfuscating the reality that we are here because of this rightward ratchet. And all progressive promises turn out to be lies convenient during an election. Blaming disenfranchised voters is an attempt to defer blame where Is doesn't belong to maintain power, and is a losing strategy against republicans.

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 12 hours ago

Exactly, it's not the job of the voters to convince a party their interests are worth pursing, it is the job of the party to convince voters that they will pursue their interests.

Donor money alone can not win an election and a failure to engage with voters will sure as hell lose it.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world -4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That's a lot of words to cover over your preposterous assertion that electing the neo fascists shows how America wants left wing government.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The Democratic Party lost to Donal trump, this is the second time. Seems to me the democrats need their progressive voters. Best they answer to them.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world -3 points 9 hours ago

Like a lot of folks on lemmy who claim to want things to be better, you're full of criticism of the democratic Party and can divert absolutely any topic whatsoever to be the fault of the Democrats, and trying to get you to come up with any genuine criticism of the republicans will fail because you're perfectly happy with the continued dominance of the far right as long as you get to talk about how the policies of the Republican Party are the responsibility of the democratic Party and the people who vote for them. It's actually insane nonsense and I see through your doublethink even if you don't.