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Donald Trump argued that a GOP budget bill should help only Republican states instead of benefiting Democratic governors.

"We're going to make a couple of tweaks," Trump said of his "one big beautiful bill" during a Tuesday trip to Capitol Hill. "I mean, we don't want to benefit Democrat governors, although I would do that if it made it better, but they don't know what they're doing."

"We want to help all the states, but we have governors that are from the Democrat [sic] party, let's say New York, Illinois, big ones, and let's say Gavin 'Newscum,' who's done a horrible job in California."

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[–] invertedspear@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’ll be super fucked if we do. If it’s left vs right you’ll have most of the major cities besieged by rural folk. If it’s state on state, Red and blue states both will have to “secure” vast swaths of their populations or suffer constant sabotage.

This isn’t as easily cut and dry, north vs south, as the US civil war was. Modern civil war would be a hell of destroyed cities and slaughtered or starving innocents. Just look at all current conflicts. You may be tired now, but it’s nothing compared to the reality of what USCWII would be.

[–] GoodLuckToFriends@lemmy.today 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Closest analogous conflicts I could imagine would be when the us bombed eastern europe. Urban areas would be bereft of food and incoming supplies, rural areas would be bereft of most foods and incoming supplies, and everyone devolves into roving gangs and desperate attempts to fortify an area of 'trusted' neighbors.

Reading the first hand accounts of what people went through is enough to make me horrified whenever anyone talks about the possibility of a civil war with glee. They don't have the imagination or the knowledge to comprehend what neighbor vs. neighbor really looks like.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Closest analogous conflicts I could imagine would be when the us bombed eastern europe.

Weird to frame the breakup wars and ethnic conflict of Yugoslavia around the part that the US played in it. Assuming that was what you were talking about

[–] GoodLuckToFriends@lemmy.today 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Well, that was the perspective of the people I spoke to and read of, so it's how I interpret the stories I was told.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 23 hours ago

Makes sense, it's just unusual perspective to me

Which is why we should all be joining up with supportive local community groups, like, yesterday. Under this administration, one should best assume that there is no official safety net anymore. The dictator-in-chief can sign an executive order and remove everything on a whim.

We're going to be reliant on our neighbors in a way we haven't seen in generations. Get involved and start making connections now. There are organizations across the country that serve their own communities.

One quick note - be mindful of how those organizations are funded. If they rely on government funding, that means they're beholden to the government. To this government. Which can choose to withhold funding or to attach ridiculous strings to it. On the other hand, if they're completely donation-based by the local community, they can remain faithful to their members' interests and keep running regardless of which politicians are in charge. Just something to keep in mind.