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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Please don’t fuck this up DNC! Embrace the change!

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Harris was supposed to be the one who'd get the Progressives excited and she got fewer votes than Biden did in 2020.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

WEIRD! I KNOW Progressives and they LOVE Bombing Children and KEEPING the Status Quo! It's so WEIRD they WOULDNT Vote for Harris!

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, they must love bombing children since they worked so hard to keep Trump in.

[–] gobbles_turkey@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

are you talking about progressives or centrists, dagwood?

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When your choice is keeping the status quo, or everything getting a lot worse, that doesn't seem to be a difficult choice.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe the DNC should stop trying to run on the status quo instead of blaming the voters.

Americans want change, that's how trump got elected, even the right wing doesn't like the status quo. They don't agree on the direction, but the status quo was not the move to make there, not when that includes US funded murder of children

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The DNC can do far better, yes. But the voters can also do better. Thinking critically is an important part of participating in democracy.

As I said before the election, there was no option that did not include US funded murder of children. If Trump had been an outspoken opponent of the war in Gaza, (and we had any reason to believe him) then I could see the argument. But that was not the case, was it?

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I appreciate the pragmatism, and for what it's worth, I agree with your logic but voters aren’t pragmatists. They engage emotionally, which is why reactionary movements thrive.

Republicans offered an identity rooted in tribalism, fueled by fear, anger, and even hatred. Yet even a hateful tribe is still a tribe. In an era of loneliness and division, the group that accepts you flaws and all holds a powerful advantage. The side effect? Politics becomes emotional, not intellectual.

And let’s be honest: It’s hard to blame voters for disengaging. First-past-the-post, 'lesser of two evils' voting is demotivational at its core.

When every election feels like damage control, idealism withers.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 3 points 1 day ago

Agreed on all points. But rational thinking is necessary for a functioning democracy.

As you observe, that's one reason we don't have one.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Why was she supposed to be? And why did she spend so much time on stage with conservative republicans trying to prove how middle of the road she was?

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

Harris was supposed to be the one who'd get the Progressives excited

Well whoever thought of that was clearly a moron

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago

Backing a genocide and pretending like people weren't having financial issues just because the stock market was up didn't help much.

She didn't have any progressive stances, why were they supposed to be excited about her?

[–] gobbles_turkey@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

She abandoned all her progressives positions early. I'm no political consultant, but I think thats usually not the best method to win over progressives. I dont think she planned on progressive support-- I think someone told her she could win some republicans and never have to talk to a progressives ever again.

[–] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why would she have gotten progressives excited?

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee -3 points 1 day ago

The question I ask is why people needed to be excited at all?

Trump was openly talking about aiding the Israelis plus stopping aid to Ukraine.

Apparently, people thought if they didn't vote for Harris Trump wouldn't win either.