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I get that Steam is where everything and everyone is at. And that the user experience and functionality is best there BUT having another player to try an compete with Steam is a good thing, right?

If anyone can try, it's the Fortnite Bank.

So, why the hate?

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[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world -5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

People are going to list all the features Steam has over Epic, ignoring that Steam has had ~22 years to get to where it is. The original Steam experience was garbage, and lots of us older gamers knew what would happen and hated that Steam would be the primary catalyst to killing off physical media for PC games back in the mid-2000s, especially as broadband internet access was becoming far more accessible.

Don't get me wrong, Valve has done alright so far in terms of game ownership, but once Gabe dies/retires, it's only a matter of time before some greedy fucks force Valve to go public and the pure enshittification process begins.

[–] TomAwsm@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay, but have EGS really improved in any significant way in the 7 years they've been up? I don't see it. Plus, a smart competitor would absolutely look at Steam's history and learn from it; they don't seem to have done that at all.

If they had spent the same amount of money on developing the storefront that they have on exclusivity deals, EGS could have been a worthy competitor.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't disagree that Epic could definitely be doing better with their storefront. They have made improvements, albeit at a glacial pace. They've added achievements and reviews, but it's still a pale comparison to what Steam offers. That being said, no one seems to dig at GoG's shitty storefront and app nearly to the same degree. Luckily, GOG allows third-party access, so you can at least replace their app with other alternatives.

Regardless, I'm not defending Epic, I was simply trying to avoid doing the mindless "fuck Epic" and offer some counterargument. Epic is a shitty company, but some competition is better than zero competition. Yes, GOG exists, but they hardly have any marketshare at all and if CDPR ever stops supporting it as much as they have been, their future likely isn't looking so great. It's like AMD vs Nvidia. Both companies aren't great, but I'd rather both exist than only Nvidia and/or AMD; and of course, even more competition would be even better.

[–] TomAwsm@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Agreed on all points. Sorry if I sounded overly antagonistic.

[–] Darkenfolk@dormi.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago

People are going to list all the features Steam has over Epic, ignoring that Steam has had ~22 years to get to where it is.

And then there are people talking about how steam has had those 22 years, while completely ignoring how epic could just copy how steam did things and work from there.

Sure, they can't see what happens in the back end, but I somehow doubt that valve is doing anything ground breaking there that others can't think of.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol, no one is listing steam features. Epic is perfectly capable of being pieces of shit and a garbage company without needing comparison.

EGS is today as old as steam was in 2010. Yet it is still behind 2010 steam's features. All that on top of all the unethical and shady stuff they have done and the many different ways they make gaming worse for everyone.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Their Guides feature didn't come out until 2012sh, same with workshop. The only thing Steam had in 2010 that Epic doesn't have right now is Community, which launched around 2007sh.

Like I said, Steam was not that good for a long time.