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Specifically Marilyn Manson and Kanye West. Am I overthinking this?

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[โ€“] Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I can't, personally. Same with any art. Kanye can get fucked. Manson can get fucked. Pantera can get fucked. Neil Gaiman can get fucked.

Some are harder to walk away from than others though. Sandman and Death were two of the first comic book characters that I ever got to read complete stories of and not just random back issues. But I'll never be able to look at another Gaiman creation again without thinking about everything.

Others are easier to leave behind. Bands like Pantera always came across as macho dickheads that beat up kids for listening to heavy metal back in school anyway. So I feel nothing saying nazi metalheads fuck off

[โ€“] otp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

What's the problem with Pantera? I know almost nothing about them aside from an album plus a few singles

[โ€“] Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Phil Anselmo, singer of Pantera, in 2016:

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And seeing that made me feel stupid for never picking up on the white power undertones in their music before. Honestly it's made me feel something not good about a lot of metal bands in general since, considering that this very year, Metallica, Slayer and Pantera were still happily touring alongside each other as opening acts for Black Sabbath's 20th final tour.

[โ€“] otp@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 hours ago

Thank you. That's a shame. I was hoping it was one of the newer members of the band, but nope, he joined in the 80s.

Him and fans try to play it off as a joke, but it definitely means something when you keep making the same kinds of jokes and not changing after the first time people tell you it's terrible