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[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 6 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

what about the numerous sexual harassment lawsuits, decades long friendship with Epstein including numerous trips on the lollita express and his longstanding board membership of Berkshire Hathaway which has presided over numerous ethics violations?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The flight logs do not show that Bill Gates has ever visited the island on any plane. The most that has been confirmed is that Bill Gates flew from New Jersey to Florida on a private plane owned by Epstein once and that he had dinner with Epstain exactly once, which in interviews he expressed as a major mistake. I remind you that before 2006 Epstein was a public figure as a professional financier and broker and even until 2019 him and Ghislaine participated in major fundraisers.

Furthermore, your claim is one that gets constantly circulated by right wing nutjobs after a particularly viral tweet in 2023.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 0 points 35 minutes ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago) (1 children)

Bill Gates knowingly associated with a person involved with and convicted of some pretty crazy stuff. Bill knows it's crazy, that's why he's been spending out the ass on PR for many years. His wife divorced him, and Bill's relationship with Epstein was a seemingly big factor.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/articles/melinda-gates-opens-divorce-betrayal-211513816.html

Melinda: "I did not like that he had meetings with Jeffrey Epstein, no. I made that clear to him…He was abhorrent. He was evil personified. My heart breaks for these women."

The philanthropist stressed that Bill's relationship with the sex offender affected her deeply, writing: "That October, things had reached a fever pitch when The New York Times published a deeply disturbing article that raised serious questions about Bill's conduct."

"Questions that suggested he had betrayed not only our marriage but also my values," Melinda lamented in her book.

If even his former wife throws Bill under the bus, why are you defending him?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago (1 children)

If you had rumours about you of being involved with a worldwide sex trafficking ring I think it would put a strain on your relationships too, pal.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 0 points 28 minutes ago* (last edited 24 minutes ago) (1 children)

So in the absence of evidence, let's defend Bill. Got it.

We could stay neutral, but still be concerned that this person still has power, wealth, and influence...but everybody loves billionaire philanthropists, am I right?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 23 minutes ago (1 children)

Saying Bill Gates is as bad as Elon Musk is not Neutral. You should not be Neutral about Musk, Zuckerberg, or Bezos, they are the enemy.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 0 points 19 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago) (1 children)

I'm personally saying that no person should be able to accumulate wealth, power, and influence to such a degree and also use his wealth to pay people to sing his praises and like him.

I'm not making value judgements on these two individuals. I'm simply stating that there is no merit to billionaires existing.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 17 minutes ago* (last edited 16 minutes ago) (1 children)

Okay but that stance in no way dictates that an individual in our actual reality, where there are no such idealist barriers, has already accumulated wealth and used it to do good things.

This is the value judgements discussion. Feel free to exit.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 0 points 14 minutes ago* (last edited 8 minutes ago) (1 children)

How much money has Bill put towards developing Africa and directly improving their living standards?

Has he addressed modern slavery and modern child slavery (which we rely on for our cocoa)?

Has he addressed colonialism and imperialism?

These countries are extracted for everything they are worth, they are exploited for their labor, resources, and goods, and they remain poor while wealth concentrates to the few in first-world countries.

His "philanthropy" surely helps him to be aware of the situations that these countries face. But let's just shift an important topic and reduce it to value judgements. Got it.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

Only for their development program and only in Africa would be $92M USD SOURCE

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

What friendship. He was never at the island according to records. Unless you have some proof.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 1 points 29 minutes ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago)

Ah, right. It was just Bill getting financial advice - purely business.

It's certainly normal to get financial advice from sex offenders and those convicted of prostitution, with multiple accusers in court against them.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago

Oh, so he just flew on the plane named after the pedophile book and was known to also have children on it for the sexual pleasure of whoever was there?

The island wasn't the only place kids were getting fucked, dude