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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

If you had rumours about you of being involved with a worldwide sex trafficking ring I think it would put a strain on your relationships too, pal.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net -1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

So in the absence of evidence, let's defend Bill. Got it.

We could stay neutral, but still be concerned that this person still has power, wealth, and influence...but everybody loves billionaire philanthropists, am I right?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Saying Bill Gates is as bad as Elon Musk is not Neutral. You should not be Neutral about Musk, Zuckerberg, or Bezos, they are the enemy.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm personally saying that no person should be able to accumulate wealth, power, and influence to such a degree and also use his wealth to pay people to sing his praises and like him.

I'm not making value judgements on these two individuals. I'm simply stating that there is no merit to billionaires existing.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Okay but that stance in no way dictates that an individual in our actual reality, where there are no such idealist barriers, has already accumulated wealth and used it to do good things.

This is the value judgements discussion. Feel free to exit.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

How much money has Bill put towards developing Africa and directly improving their living standards?

Has he addressed modern slavery and modern child slavery (which we rely on for our cocoa)?

Has he addressed colonialism and imperialism?

These countries are extracted for everything they are worth, they are exploited for their labor, resources, and goods, and they remain poor while wealth concentrates to the few in first-world countries.

His "philanthropy" surely helps him to be aware of the situations that these countries face. But let's just shift an important topic and reduce it to value judgements. Got it.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Only for their development program and only in Africa would be $92M USD SOURCE

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Because $92 million is such a large number when you have so much wealth. What would that fund here? A handful of buildings and a few highways?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

His total contributions alone are $100Bn, mate. You asked for a very specific metric and got it.

If you were to build, for example, a townhouse with USA labour costs it would be about $55,000 to $100,000, so you could build a couple thousand with that amount. Be a pretty dumb way to spend it, imo.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

That's all I see Bill doing. Throwing coins at impoverished and exploited people does not properly address or solve the issues they are facing. Bill Gates surely knows of the exploitation that African countries face at the hands of western imperialism. He could use his influence to shine a light on modern atrocities.

If they were paid fairly for their labor and paid a fair price for their goods and exports; these countries would not be starving, they could afford their own vaccination programs on the back of the own economies, they would be able to provide everyone with access to clean water, and they would be able to develop their societies as they see fit, including providing education to their citizens.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You think 100Bn USD is coins compared to what he actually lives off of...?

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

If there is still slavery and these countries are largely poor, yet western society relies on them for their labor, natural resources, and goods/exports, his 100 billion dollars means nothing.

He could've spent that 100 billion a whole lot more effectively. Like shining a light on western companies supporting child slavery to harvest cocoa or enabling these countries to break free from western imperialism.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You're mad that Bill Gates isn't God?

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm mad that he's silent and complicit while people suffer. Perhaps I'll work on my anger while he hopefully works on finding his voice and speaking the truth.

He pays regularly for media attention, why can't he pay to expose western atrocities?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

He's literally in the headline speaking out and you're still criticizing him, lol

It seems like you're mad just for the sake of being mad.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

He's acting like Elon Musk is solely responsible. He's diluting a very large issue (modern slavery) and watering it down to Elon Musk bad.

Bill Gates is educated and present in these countries. He knows what really is going on.

Can you blame me for being angry that there is mass suffering, death, and slavery, while everybody in the know acts dumb, and the truth is hidden from the masses?

Edit: Your downvotes have been noted. Thanks for providing your feedback finitebanjo.