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Court ruling bars Apple from charging 27% commission on purchases outside the App Store
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this post was submitted on 02 May 2025
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Apple doesn’t ban Mac users from downloading software outside the App Store.
Microsoft bans Xbox users from downloading unlicensed software.
That this completely true observation has twice the downvotes than upvotes highlights this community’s views on Apple.
No one was talking about Mac.
XBOX is not a workstation. The only thing you'd want to install on it is games. That's like, the whole point.
That was comparing desktop OS to mobile OS, which is why the person to which I replied pointed out this is different than macOS.
On your second point, neither is iOS a workstation, and one could just as easily say, “The only thing you’d want to install is mobile apps.” Okay but the problem isn’t the type of apps, it is the source of those apps. So either you should be able to get application / games from multiple sources or not.
If you think those initial downvotes were due to some pedantic distinction about workstation, and not because somebody indirectly implied that Microsoft and Apple were on similar footing in this regard, fine.
It doesn't matter. The point stands.
Yes it is. It's a general computing device. The XBOX is a dedicated gaming device.
As far as this discussion, it very much is.
You absolutely should be able to on all platforms, but some are more important than others and comparing them like they're all the same makes no sense.
Sure, Jan.
Or we're just annoyed with random whataboutisms.
It’s not random. It’s a direct comparison, but people like to pretend it’s not.
I would argue I should be able to buy any game without Xbox marketplace on it.
That’s where epic is going next.
They were replying to the comparison to Windows. What are you on about?
Mm yeah, I probably missed that while scrolling
I'm curious what that would even look like. The only thing you can install on an Xbox is Xbox games, where are you getting the Xbox games from if not the official publisher?
The Xbox doesn't have the majority of the gaming market.
The smartphone market is basically a duopoly.
Noe does iOS, Android has the vast majority of the smartphone market
A duopoly doesn't require a 50/50 market share. It simply requires them to be the only real options and to both engage in similar anti-consumer practises.
This says Xbox has over 60% of global market share:
https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/console/worldwide/
Doubtful. These numbers provided are completely wrong. Back when files were leaked during this very trial, Epic revealed they had 3 to 4 times more players on Playstations than Xboxes everywhere other than the US.
Accorsing to Statista (accesible on a third party site if you want to avoid registring), Xbox only has 23% of the market (as opposee to PS's 45% and Nintendo's 27%).
I don't like Microsoft, and I agree sideloading should be a thing on consoles too, but they definitely do not hold a majority of the console market, let alone a monopoly.
Tbh I think that data is incredibly misleading. Every single generation of PlayStation has outsold the Xbox of the same generation(yes even the ps3) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles.
Additionally looking at the faq for that site it appears to get its data via page views. What % of console users actually use the browser? Is bet very few. Especially when you consider the ps5 has no built in browser.
Fair enough.
I think hardware companies should make money selling devices. They should be banned from jailing their users in a locked proprietary ecosystem.