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Fans have taken to the likes of X (formerly Twitter) and TikTok to question NetherRealm's decision to market Mortal Kombat 1 as a $70 Switch release. It has been called "robbery" and "disrespectful" to users.

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[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it is wild speculation. Turning off graphical effects etc. until you get acceptable frame rates isn't hard and doesn't take long, definitely not as long as implementing them for the other consoles.

You don't need to rebuild the game because the CPU is slower.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Graphical effects have never been the problem. They're completely irrelevant and not even sort of part of the discussion.

CPU performance is exactly the entire problem, and yes, you absolutely do have to make fundamental changes to make it functional. The CPU is the reason the majority of last gen games are straight up impossible to port in any context, and current gen games are much worse.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Graphical effects have never been the problem. They're completely irrelevant and not even sort of part of the discussion.

What? This whole topic is about the lower quality of MK1 on the switch. How is the CPU involved in the graphics of MK1? You'll need to share a source that this is the problem.

CPU performance is exactly the entire problem, and yes, you absolutely do have to make fundamental changes to make it functional. The CPU is the reason the majority of last gen games are straight up impossible to port in any context, and current gen games are much worse.

Please share a source, or at least a detailed description of what exactly the CPU is too slow for to run MK1 with higher quality. It sure as hell isn't involved in shader execution, which is where most of the graphical fidelity comes from (if you're developing a game post 2000).

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Am not an expert but i think particles and physics are both calculated by the CPU. Both very intensive tasks. Graphic wise, from looking at the screenshot above, it seems they only lowered the quality of model and it looks awful because they went for realism. The not so easy fixable problem is the characters design, Switch games look cartoonish for a reason.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Physics are calculated by the CPU, but a game like MK1 doesn't have many physics to calculate - almost everything is pre-made animations. Particles are updated by the CPU, but rendered by the GPU.

And yeah, that's why my point was that it's not the CPU that is limiting the graphics.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The lower graphics quality is because the GPU can't do math. There's no way to mitigate that.

It's also absolutely none of the work involved in a port. The work on a port is entirely making the actual mechanics function on a CPU that was terrible for mobile years before the switch launched.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The lower graphics quality is because the GPU can't do math. There's no way to mitigate that.

Yes, which is why the CPU isn't the problem. It's the GPU.

It's also absolutely none of the work involved in a port. The work on a port is entirely making the actual mechanics function on a CPU that was terrible for mobile years before the switch launched.

Please share a source for this. A game like MK1 doesn't need a lot of CPU power, because there just isn't anything complicated happening. It's all GPU that's missing.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I spent like 15 minutes looking up and comparing the minimum requirements on PC for mortal Kombat 1 (a game I have no intention of ever playing) and the CPU and GPU of the switch, pointing out that the GPU and CPU of the switch are both so far below even the minimum requirements on PC (which are pretty low tbh)